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Post by tiger1 on Sept 13, 2024 13:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Sept 13, 2024 14:33:54 GMT -5
Let me also make it clear I'd prefer for us to enter into a home and home series with JSU as opposed to playing them in the SHC. Yes, Memphis is a natural site for that match up. But, I think it would be a great game to have in Nashville to reignite our base. We need games in our home that will excite our fans.
Tiger1, I wish we could build our brand without certain schools. But, unfortunately our fanbase is overly HBCU centric and I just don't see us building our brand playing non-HBCU's that our fan base could really careless about and don't want to see us play. Our university is built around us being a proud HBCU. Our sports history is primarily built around HBCU culture. mTSU was the only non-HBCU that we could truly call a rival. Now, TSU is faced with being in a conferene without one single school we consider a rival and no regularly scheduled games against any of the HBCU's that our fans tend to be drawn to and have good fanbases themselves. I'm not sure how we reignite our fanbase and grow the brand when a large contingent of our fanbase has pretty said what they really want to see. It is not this Big South-OVC alliance. If anything that's making matters worse. Because now they are being given even more opponents they don't know and don't care to know. The OVC has lost the few schools that we sorta kinda appreciated the games (APSU, EKU and JxSU in football, and BU and MSU in basketball).
I know you, me and most others on this board will support TSU through thick and thin. We understand the desire to want to play a variety of programs, especially those that are highly competitive as a way to build a stronger program. Unfortunately, there are far too many other fans that don't see it that way. They are not trueblue Big Blue Tiger fans as we are. I don't know what considerations Dr. Allen and our coaches is giving to conference affiliation. If he/they intend to build our programs and brand, the must consider that even a growing OVC is probably not the answer for TSU.
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Post by CalTiger on Sept 13, 2024 15:19:39 GMT -5
Let me also make it clear I'd prefer for us to enter into a home and home series with JSU as opposed to playing them in the SHC. Yes, Memphis is a natural site for that match up. But, I think it would be a great game to have in Nashville to reignite our base. We need games in our home that will excite our fans. Tiger1, I wish we could build our brand without certain schools. But, unfortunately our fanbase is overly HBCU centric and I just don't see us building our brand playing non-HBCU's that our fan base could really careless about and don't want to see us play. Our university is built around us being a proud HBCU. Our sports history is primarily built around HBCU culture. mTSU was the only non-HBCU that we could truly call a rival. Now, TSU is faced with being in a conferene without one single school we consider a rival and no regularly scheduled games against any of the HBCU's that our fans tend to be drawn to and have good fanbases themselves. I'm not sure how we reignite our fanbase and grow the brand when a large contingent of our fanbase has pretty said what they really want to see. It is not this Big South-OVC alliance. If anything that's making matters worse. Because now they are being given even more opponents they don't know and don't care to know. The OVC has lost the few schools that we sorta kinda appreciated the games (APSU, EKU and JxSU in football, and BU and MSU in basketball). I know you, me and most others on this board will support TSU through thick and thin. We understand the desire to want to play a variety of programs, especially those that are highly competitive as a way to build a stronger program. Unfortunately, there are far too many other fans that don't see it that way. They are not trueblue Big Blue Tiger fans as we are. I don't know what considerations Dr. Allen and our coaches is giving to conference affiliation. If he/they intend to build our programs and brand, the must consider that even a growing OVC is probably not the answer for TSU. Although I believe it was unintentional, EG's statement conveyed braggadociousness. It conveyed assurance of a 2024 SHC win, so, now we can talk about 2025 and the future. I think it is perfectly fine for fans to do this but I think is unsportsmanlike for representatives of the university to do this. As was in the article, representatives of JSU did not take the bait and make SHC comments. If EG wanted to talk about renewing a series with JSU, it should have been done in a separate Tennessean article and not in the 2024 SHC article. This is the point I was making and I believe trucrat was making.
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Post by tiger1 on Sept 13, 2024 17:30:33 GMT -5
I guess it's their version of ESPNs College Game Day.
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Post by tiger1 on Sept 14, 2024 9:41:52 GMT -5
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Post by tiger1 on Sept 15, 2024 15:39:28 GMT -5
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 15, 2024 17:44:06 GMT -5
How many more years do we have on our contract with SHC? If we are still on contract for next year, I'm kinda surprised that they don't have at least 2025 appointment already locked in for us.
I'd hate to see it fold, but part of me feels like it would be better for us in the long run.
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Post by funkiejunkie on Sept 15, 2024 18:14:20 GMT -5
I thought about this a lot during and after the game.
Long term, I'd love for TSU to not be involved in any more classics other than our own. However, as DC said earlier, our fan base isn't there right now. Besides the money games we've gotten, the SHC is the biggest drawing game on our schedule, by far. I think right now, it would be tough if we weren't in it. Also, I know JSU fans talk about the SHC; but I assure you, if TSU pulled out, JSU would jump back in if the money was right, and we'd be on the outside looking in. I think the best short term move is for us to stay in regardless of opponent. If it's still UAPB, we need a home and home series with JSU. If JSU is in the SHC, we need a home and home with FAMU (really should try to lock that in regardless).
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Post by tsundenver on Sept 15, 2024 19:43:29 GMT -5
I think the JMC and the SHC are too close together. BamaSt seems to have it right. 3 major classics in each month. Labor Day (this year it was sept 7th), Magic City Classic in end of October. Turkey Day Classic (homecoming) in late November. Growing up we attended both magic city and turkey day classics.
If we can play JMC Labor Day weekend, play in the SHC at the end of September and play homecoming at end of October, we may draw more of the same fans. 3 or 4 weeks gives fans a chance to attend all 3.
This will take creative scheduling and cooperation from other HBCUs. (BamaST, AA&M, FAMU, JSU, Howard, NCA&T)
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Post by tsundenver on Sept 15, 2024 19:50:42 GMT -5
This was the third overall game played inside the stadium since the renovations, and the 27,584 is larger than each of the two Memphis Tigers home games played the previous two weeks.
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Post by funkiejunkie on Sept 15, 2024 20:20:08 GMT -5
This was the third overall game played inside the stadium since the renovations, and the 27,584 is larger than each of the two Memphis Tigers home games played the previous two weeks. Memphis is struggling attendance wise. Most Memphis fans are only Memphis basketball fans. Football wise, they're Roll Tide, Rocky Top or something else.
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Post by funkiejunkie on Sept 15, 2024 20:31:10 GMT -5
I think the JMC and the SHC are too close together. BamaSt seems to have it right. 3 major classics in each month. Labor Day (this year it was sept 7th), Magic City Classic in end of October. Turkey Day Classic (homecoming) in late November. Growing up we attended both magic city and turkey day classics. If we can play JMC Labor Day weekend, play in the SHC at the end of September and play homecoming at end of October, we may draw more of the same fans. 3 or 4 weeks gives fans a chance to attend all 3. This will take creative scheduling and cooperation from other HBCUs. (BamaST, AA&M, FAMU, JSU, Howard, NCA&T) SHC is always gonna depend on Memphis' schedule, especially now that the university owns the stadium. It'll be interesting to see where they land in conference affiliation, because they may have less control over their schedule if they join a league that plays more conference games early.
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Post by tsundenver on Sept 15, 2024 20:40:41 GMT -5
This was the third overall game played inside the stadium since the renovations, and the 27,584 is larger than each of the two Memphis Tigers home games played the previous two weeks. Memphis is struggling attendance wise. Most Memphis fans are only Memphis basketball fans. Football wise, they're Roll Tide, Rocky Top or something else. I just had a wild and crazy thought that will likely never happen. Let surrounding cities (Bham, Louisville, Indy, Chattanooga, St Louis) bid on the SHC much like what is done for basketball tourneys and other sporting events. Teams agree to play for a guaranteed profit after expenses including band and travel arrangements. Must be played at the end of September or beginning of October... WELL one can dream...
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 15, 2024 22:34:58 GMT -5
You can count Indy out of that one. Them CCC idiots really believe you can have an interesting HBCU classic and script when the bands are allowed to play during the game.
Chatt would be interesting simply because it would make more sense if they decided to pull in a MEAC team. But I doubt anyone with interest in that area got the funding to set it up.
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Post by jaythomas on Sept 18, 2024 10:46:31 GMT -5
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