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Post by tsu120 on Oct 20, 2023 13:56:41 GMT -5
but yeah blame a southernite for the 💩 show of your own makingI promised DC, I would behave myself. However, that's like saying SU blaming TSU for the NCAA placing SU, Athletics Department on probation - for the lack of institutional control. Interesting SU played Lincoln University, for Homecoming [45-18] in front of 21,492 screaming fans. It will be interesting to see the final score against BC this weekend. Are you going to the Game? Met this young lady from Baton Rouge - SU graduate. Sister, sho can cook. But it's all good - Blue, serious question - are you familiar with Morehouse Parish. I found a lot of relatives that lived there back in the day. Now you're sounding like the Tennessee State legislation. Just rambling on making nonsensical comments that has absolutely nothing to do with anything or an ounce of sense. In an attempt to deflect from their self inflicted chaos. But hey, keep going. If nothing else it helps feeds that monsters called denial. As I said "I promised DC" I just stated SU played Lincoln University, for Homecoming [45-18] in front of 21,492 screaming fans. And mentioned about the upcoming game against BC. I would say no foul, no harm! But, "oh well"
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Post by tsumadness on Oct 22, 2023 6:18:55 GMT -5
So, in other words, you’re saying that we have to depend on these 7 or 8 schools to get a decent crowd to come watch our team play. That’s a sad state of affairs. Losing for over 30-years will do that to any institution even if they have a rich and significant sporting (football) history. Contrary to belief, we haven’t been losing for over thirty years. You might want to check your sheet.
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Post by tsumadness on Oct 22, 2023 6:34:35 GMT -5
So, in other words, you’re saying that we have to depend on these 7 or 8 schools to get a decent crowd to come watch our team play. That’s a sad state of affairs. "Have to" is a strong phrase LOL Instead, say that the camaraderie that we share with these institutions holds a special place in the hearts of our fanbase.
Showing displeasure in a schedule isn't exclusive to us. Consider how many Notre Dame fans were livid and openly expressed their displeasure with them scheduling TSU. Even some North Dakota State fans are unhappy with playing TSU, and believe it or not, every TSU fan isn't thrilled about playing them either. Granted, the Notre Dame fans still attended, but many were not happy about it.
Sorry that I’m bringing all this back up, but I’ve been traveling to games and I missed a lot of this conversation. However, your last statement made my point; Notre Dame fans still came. All argument about who we play, has been lost when only 13,000 showed up for homecoming against Norfolk State. Can’t use it anymore, so just stop.
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Post by tsumadness on Oct 22, 2023 6:42:24 GMT -5
So, in other words, you’re saying that we have to depend on these 7 or 8 schools to get a decent crowd to come watch our team play. That’s a sad state of affairs. It's been that way for over three decades. The real sad state of affairs is the administration poor decision to resist that fact and the harm it has done to a once proud and respected program. Because of their unrelenting denial of it. Numbers don't lie but people do. I’ll say it again, the 13,000 against Norfolk State proves it’s not about who we play. You can’t play AAMU, Al State, FAMU, and JSU every week. It can’t be about the outside pageantry every time. And that’s what TSU folk have come to love.
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Post by bluedog on Oct 22, 2023 7:42:33 GMT -5
It's been that way for over three decades. The real sad state of affairs is the administration poor decision to resist that fact and the harm it has done to a once proud and respected program. Because of their unrelenting denial of it. Numbers don't lie but people do. I’ll say it again, the 13,000 against Norfolk State proves it’s not about who we play. You can’t play AAMU, Al State, FAMU, and JSU every week. It can’t be about the outside pageantry every time. And that’s what TSU folk have come to love. I need clarification Exactly what do you mean that the game against Norfolk State proves it's not about who Tennessee State plays?
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Post by gatorcrat on Oct 22, 2023 9:31:04 GMT -5
Losing for over 30-years will do that to any institution even if they have a rich and significant sporting (football) history. Contrary to belief, we haven’t been losing for over thirty years. You might want to check your sheet. We’ve largely been a losing program since 1990. I know that’s hard to believe since we or some of our fan base think of us as the ND of Black football. Winning Pct by decade 2020 .429 2010 .500 2000 .442 1990 .482 1980 .690 1970 .827 1960 .707 1950 .840 1940 .836 For more clarity, # of records (by decade) over .500 since 1990 1990 3 2000 4 2010 4 2020 0 The attendance for HC is hard to understand, maybe folks just not hip to Norfolk. Aside from that, the numbers I posted clearly state our performance problems on the field weren’t created overnight and therefore won’t be fixed overnight. Economic times become more difficult by the day and the avg person isn’t spending dollars on a losing program. Churning out a winning season won’t do it either. We have to show a consistent model of winning. In the meantime the administration must pay attention to the avg fan and not just throw anyone on the schedule (and please don’t treat the Norfolk game as a norm it was an outlier-for reasons I don’t understand 😂). We say just support but we’re obliviously not the avg fan. We need to increase ticket sales, especially season ticket sales and throwing paint on the Hole ain’t gonna improve season ticket sales. Heck the Hole offers no benefits to season ticket holders but that’s another convo 😂. BUT we gotta get out of the mindset that we’re a top HBCU program, traditionally ok maybe but the 80’s were a long time ago (man time flies). Still don’t believe me? Try telling someone outside of North Nashville that we’re the ND of Black College Football.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 22, 2023 11:20:43 GMT -5
What is an average fan?
Who thinks that we are the notre dame of hbcu football?
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 22, 2023 11:32:10 GMT -5
Why was the big blue club ended? Why wasn't there a replacement.
Why doesn't the tsu athletics group have officers?
We don't have a committed group dedicated to cultivating fans.
We are currently trying to make the tsu national alumni association attempt to manage fans. That isn't their sole purpose.
We have people who just aren't fans of tsu football or really hbcu football. They say things like all hbcu fans tailgate. No ones goes to the game. Than want to play more hbcus so that they can invite their fans to stay outside the stadium during the game.
Some of them even said that 13k is enough. Our attendance is enough.
They clearly value p5 more than hbcus.
I am sure that their friends that they have at other hbcus don't go to the games either. We know that those fans do exists.
I think we had great fan engagement at Notre Dame and at Kennesaw St. We should place more energy on how to engage those kinds of folks.
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Post by tsumadness on Oct 22, 2023 11:33:37 GMT -5
I’m aware of our lack of winning gatorcrat. I’ve lived through it. I know that our winning tradition has declined over the years, but I refuse to let someone come on here and call us losers. Yes, we’ve had some bad seasons, but we’ve also had some accomplishments that certain schools have not.
A #1 ranking in all of FCS at the end of the season. An undefeated season. Three trips to the playoffs. A win in the playoffs. Two OVC championships. Not losers, just not winning consistently.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 22, 2023 11:43:26 GMT -5
We also are allowing a lot of misinformation and some folks are trying to solve them will simple solutions.
I guess the former football players who tailgate don't like football....
The students don't have to pay for game tickets nor parking when they attend Nissan.
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Post by gatorcrat on Oct 22, 2023 11:51:24 GMT -5
I’m aware of our lack of winning gatorcrat. I’ve lived through it. I know that our winning tradition has declined over the years, but I refuse to let someone come on here and call us losers. Yes, we’ve had some bad seasons, but we’ve also had some accomplishments that certain schools have not. A #1 ranking in all of FCS at the end of the season. An undefeated season. Three trips to the playoffs. A win in the playoffs. Two OVC championships. Not losers, just not winning consistently. Sorry if you took what I said as calling us losers. I never consider us losers. My intent was to clearly state we aren’t a winning program but we want people to spend $ on a program that’s not winning. That’s doesn’t make TSU losers but we definitely need to acknowledge we need to do better. 11 winning seasons in 30+ years, a playoff appearance and conference championship every blue moon is a problem.
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Post by tsumadness on Oct 22, 2023 11:55:06 GMT -5
Agreed. We do have a problem, and I hope we fix it, beginning with this season. But you weren’t the one who called us losers.
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Post by gatorcrat on Oct 22, 2023 12:03:19 GMT -5
What is an average fan? Who thinks that we are the notre dame of hbcu football? Obviously the vast majority of folks who choose to hang in the parking lot wearing TSU gear/colors and the vast # of alumni in Mid TN that don’t attend games. Re: The ND comment, there’s a lot of folks still hanging on the past. It’s even been mentioned on this board how folks think we’re better than the SWAC but whatever.
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Post by gatorcrat on Oct 22, 2023 12:09:08 GMT -5
We also are allowing a lot of misinformation and some folks are trying to solve them will simple solutions. I guess the former football players who tailgate don't like football.... The students don't have to pay for game tickets nor parking when they attend Nissan. You’re right about the students. They were non existent yesterday. The administration needs to tap into that issue ASAP, find & correct why students aren’t attending. It ain’t because we’re playing off campus cause back in the 90’s jokers would’ve been rolling 4-5 deep getting downtown.
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Post by tsundenver on Oct 22, 2023 16:03:46 GMT -5
Agreed. We do have a problem, and I hope we fix it, beginning with this season. But you weren’t the one who called us losers. Here is a solution to TSU having a losing football team... JOIN THE SWAC... that will solve the problem of losing.. (sarcasm) Believe it or not, that has indirectly been offered as a fix.
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