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Post by tsundenver on Sept 16, 2021 8:40:41 GMT -5
Upgrading the facilities will take time but I believe we finally have the right leadership in place to make that happen. Better housing and infrastructure will lead to increased enrollment and growth for the university. I think those in charge have a vision now which was lacking in the past. No more status quo. IF TSU can restart baseball and bring Hockey on board, additional sports will be needed for title 9 compliance. Women soccer is an obvious choice. In addition I would like to see gymnastics and swimming.
JUST DO IT!!!
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Sept 16, 2021 10:07:41 GMT -5
btiger, some of the requirements for FBS have been relaxed or can be petitioned. There are plenty of schools that do not have 16 sports for example. MTSU is one one of them. They do not have 16 teams, even if the separate cross country from track and field. The attendance average is not that much of a factor either. Schools have found ways to manipulate that requirement over the years. MTSU was one of them. The year that their attendance was being considered, there was no way they average 15 per game. They didn't suddenly see some huge increase in attendance playing the same OVC schools. But, they reported that they did.
Also, there are some sports that can be added that don't cost that much in terms of establishing the team, purchasing equipment and facilities. Sports like soccer and lacrosse can be played on football fields. So, no investment would be needed in facilities for those sports. Men's volleyball could be added without new facilities. However, there would be the increase in scholarships. TSU is close to, or may already have over 200 student athletes. The question is how many of them are on athletic scholarships?
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Post by btiger on Sept 16, 2021 11:06:32 GMT -5
btiger, some of the requirements for FBS have been relaxed or can be petitioned. There are plenty of schools that do not have 16 sports for example. MTSU is one one of them. They do not have 16 teams, even if the separate cross country from track and field. The attendance average is not that much of a factor either. Schools have found ways to manipulate that requirement over the years. MTSU was one of them. The year that their attendance was being considered, there was no way they average 15 per game. They didn't suddenly see some huge increase in attendance playing the same OVC schools. But, they reported that they did. Also, there are some sports that can be added that don't cost that much in terms of establishing the team, purchasing equipment and facilities. Sports like soccer and lacrosse can be played on football fields. So, no investment would be needed in facilities for those sports. Men's volleyball could be added without new facilities. However, there would be the increase in scholarships. TSU is close to, or may already have over 200 student athletes. The question is how many of them are on athletic scholarships? Ok that’s good to know. But where would you house these teams. Have you seen the undersized weight room already. Softball lockerroom is terrible. Where would a lacrosse team go. Can we recruit athletes to play the sport. What about recruiting budgets and coaches pay for these sports. I would love to go FBS but truth of the matter is we haven’t done anything successful in FCS. I would just like to address all these issues first then look to go. The other sports would not be able to compete at that level. Men’s basketball would be fine but other than that. I doubt we can compete in any other conference in the other sports. |
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Post by roknows50 on Sept 16, 2021 11:29:48 GMT -5
btiger, some of the requirements for FBS have been relaxed or can be petitioned. There are plenty of schools that do not have 16 sports for example. MTSU is one one of them. They do not have 16 teams, even if the separate cross country from track and field. The attendance average is not that much of a factor either. Schools have found ways to manipulate that requirement over the years. MTSU was one of them. The year that their attendance was being considered, there was no way they average 15 per game. They didn't suddenly see some huge increase in attendance playing the same OVC schools. But, they reported that they did. Also, there are some sports that can be added that don't cost that much in terms of establishing the team, purchasing equipment and facilities. Sports like soccer and lacrosse can be played on football fields. So, no investment would be needed in facilities for those sports. Men's volleyball could be added without new facilities. However, there would be the increase in scholarships. TSU is close to, or may already have over 200 student athletes. The question is how many of them are on athletic scholarships? Ok that’s good to know. But where would you house these teams. Have you seen the undersized weight room already. Softball lockerroom is terrible. Where would a lacrosse team go. Can we recruit athletes to play the sport. What about recruiting budgets and coaches pay for these sports. I would love to go FBS but truth of the matter is we haven’t done anything successful in FCS. I would just like to address all these issues first then look to go. The other sports would not be able to compete at that level. Men’s basketball would be fine but other than that. I doubt we can compete in any other conference in the other sports. That is why Eddie wants the MLB money money from the State, and increased fundraising. They know that their would have to be some massive upgrades. There is also a window of transition where these upgrades can take place. |
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Post by roknows50 on Sept 16, 2021 12:37:13 GMT -5
Also. Ladies flag football is now a growing college sport.
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 16, 2021 13:59:26 GMT -5
Also. Ladies flag football is now a growing college sport. Now that might interesting to watch. |
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Post by tsumadness on Sept 16, 2021 19:04:28 GMT -5
Btiger, many of the things you mentioned can be obtained in a fairly decent time. Actually, many of these things are already taking place; new dorm, soccer and hockey feasibility committee, and the Covington Complex which will have its own gym for boys and girls basketball players to name a few.
As long as we keep giving, stop tripping about the cost of season tickets, increasing enrollment, and reaching out to new business partners, this can be done.
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Sept 16, 2021 19:30:42 GMT -5
btiger, mTSU was not winning when they moved up to FBS. The success of other sports has nothing to do with us being FCS or FBS. Both are simply subdivisions of D1 football. All of the other sports would be D1 as they already are.
But before we really go too far into this, please know that we know we're not ready to make such a move. Eddie himself said that we need to address facilities, infrastructure, etc. So, I don't expect TSU to just blindly move up. We will not be like FAMU when they made their failed, no make that disastrous attempt to move up. Mikki will not put TSU in a position to fail. I trust that. I trust that Eddie is not so anxious to move up to FBS that he will push for it when we're not financially ready.
Any decision to move up will be a multi-year process unless some private entity steps in to underwrite the cost to do so. To include building facilities, funding additional sports, etc.
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Post by roknows50 on Sept 21, 2021 7:00:24 GMT -5
New episode
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Post by tsundenver on Sept 21, 2021 9:25:59 GMT -5
good to get to know the coaches and their background. At the same time they get to know TSU...
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Post by roknows50 on Sept 27, 2021 20:51:47 GMT -5
Next episode.
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 27, 2021 21:44:10 GMT -5
They talked about what would take to recruit themselves. One of the things they mentioned was television exposure. That'still importantto l lot young talent.
I see he's still wanting to get Nashville engaged in tsu sports, starting with North Nashville. That's a lofty but good goal.
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Post by tsundenver on Sept 27, 2021 22:18:23 GMT -5
Did I hear going from FCS to FBS is part of a 5 year plan... I may be mistaken but that is what it sounds like to me.
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Post by chitowntiger on Sept 28, 2021 7:10:45 GMT -5
Did I hear going from FCS to FBS is part of a 5 year plan... I may be mistaken but that is what it sounds like to me. I think that's the best (if not the only) strategy for TSU football. We really don't have any true rivalries at the FCS level (except JSU), so there is nothing to lose there and everything to gain. I believe that if we were FBS and started playing mTSU and Vandy every year, those games would draw at least 40K every time. So, whether we make an immediate move to the SWAC or ride it out in the OVC, moving to FBS in 5 years should be our goal. |
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 28, 2021 7:51:15 GMT -5
If we were to go FBS what would be the means of offsetting the extra cost of being fbs? Does the revenue sharing in a conference such as sunbelt really justify the extra cost. Not against the move, just trying to get a better picture of what we really gain, outside of prestige.
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