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Post by bluedog on Sept 23, 2023 22:12:34 GMT -5
Norfolk State just upset Towson 21-14. NCAT and Hampton have to feel like a bunch of 🫏's now for leaving the meac. Especially a lot of those aggies who were throwing their noses up on the way out. That gives the meac four wins to three losses versus the CAA.  |
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Post by bluetigga on Sept 23, 2023 22:59:09 GMT -5
The MEAC almost got a 5th. Morgan almost beat a solid Albany team in double overtime.
I think the issue with A&T was Broadway deciding to retire as coach. Coach Washington was a good DC but he couldn't keep the same momentum. He rode Broadway's talent to some big wins.
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Post by bluedog on Sept 24, 2023 1:06:27 GMT -5
The MEAC almost got a 5th. Morgan almost beat a solid Albany team in double overtime. I think the issue with A&T was Broadway deciding to retire as coach. Coach Washington was a good DC but he couldn't keep the same momentum. He rode Broadway's talent to some big wins. I saw that. As for Coach Washington he won regardless of what people say it was. That type of thinking lead them to hire this joker, now look at them. They are seeing that Washington was a better coach than they thought. Personally I believe some of them just couldn't swallow it was a coach from the swac that was leading them. Well, like the saying goes. Be careful what you wish for. |
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 24, 2023 8:43:00 GMT -5
Hopefully a change is coming soon for them.
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Post by bluetigga on Sept 25, 2023 14:29:34 GMT -5
The MEAC almost got a 5th. Morgan almost beat a solid Albany team in double overtime. I think the issue with A&T was Broadway deciding to retire as coach. Coach Washington was a good DC but he couldn't keep the same momentum. He rode Broadway's talent to some big wins. I saw that. As for Coach Washington he won regardless of what people say it was. That type of thinking lead them to hire this joker, now look at them. They are seeing that Washington was a better coach than they thought. Personally I believe some of them just couldn't swallow it was a coach from the swac that was leading them. Well, like the saying goes. Be careful what you wish for. I'm unsure if they made the right decision on the coach to replace Washington. But don't think Washington could keep the momentum Broadway built. Not saying he's a bad coach...I just don't think he was taking A&T where they wanted to go. I think Washington will land another job. In time we will see where A&T's program goes. |
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Post by bluedog on Sept 25, 2023 14:44:28 GMT -5
I saw that. As for Coach Washington he won regardless of what people say it was. That type of thinking lead them to hire this joker, now look at them. They are seeing that Washington was a better coach than they thought. Personally I believe some of them just couldn't swallow it was a coach from the swac that was leading them. Well, like the saying goes. Be careful what you wish for. I'm unsure if they made the right decision on the coach to replace Washington. But don't think Washington could keep the momentum Broadway built. Not saying he's a bad coach...I just don't think he was taking A&T where they wanted to go. I think Washington will land another job. In time we will see where A&T's program goes. You're simply confirming what I said. Sam won them a celebration bowl his first year and was coach of the year. They're the ones who got to big for their pants and thought they had outgrown the meac and moved without any investment in improving their infrastructure. More than enough of them said openly he wasn't the type of black face they wanted to represent then in their new conference. Some going as far as saying they wanted a white face. Well, they got what they wanted and now they're the butt of the jokes. What makes it even worst is that they spent well over $7 million in less than a year just to look like a 🤡 operation, in a league that's only a shell of itself. |
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Post by bluetigga on Sept 25, 2023 15:27:50 GMT -5
I'm unsure if they made the right decision on the coach to replace Washington. But don't think Washington could keep the momentum Broadway built. Not saying he's a bad coach...I just don't think he was taking A&T where they wanted to go. I think Washington will land another job. In time we will see where A&T's program goes. You're simply confirming what I said. Sam won them a celebration bowl his first year and was coach of the year. They're the ones who got to big for their pants and thought they had outgrown the meac and moved without any investment in improving their infrastructure. More than enough of them said openly he wasn't the type of black face they wanted to represent then in their new conference. Some going as far as saying they wanted a white face. Well, they got what they wanted and now they're the butt of the jokes. What makes it even worst is that they spent well over $7 million in less than a year just to look like a 🤡 operation, in a league that's only a shell of itself. Yep, Celebration Bowl wins his first two years. Great point. However, looks at his records : 10-2, 9-3, 5-6, 7-4....and you'll see my point. They started digressing, not progressing. Not even holding even to where Broadway had them. Washington was handed a Ferrari, but I'm not sure he could handle it. He was beaten by Hampton 30-9 their first year in the Big South (his third year as coach). I think that was the beginning of the end for him. They watched a Hampton program pass them by. A&T has been the best HBCU the last decade or so, and there's no way that should happen. Again, not sure the new coach will fare better...but A&T is chasing more, so a change was coming. I'm not mad at it. I also don't think it had to do with the "right Black face" or because Washington is a SWAC alum. Maybe in the fanboards they are trolls or ignorant comments using that narrative, but I seriously doubt the A&T administration would risk their jobs on that. They went and got a coordinator from one of the better programs in FCS and the conference they were headed to. He also had experience at an HBCU in the MEAC. So it made sense. |
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Post by bluedog on Sept 25, 2023 16:24:11 GMT -5
You're simply confirming what I said. Sam won them a celebration bowl his first year and was coach of the year. They're the ones who got to big for their pants and thought they had outgrown the meac and moved without any investment in improving their infrastructure. More than enough of them said openly he wasn't the type of black face they wanted to represent then in their new conference. Some going as far as saying they wanted a white face. Well, they got what they wanted and now they're the butt of the jokes. What makes it even worst is that they spent well over $7 million in less than a year just to look like a 🤡 operation, in a league that's only a shell of itself. Yep, Celebration Bowl wins his first two years. Great point. However, looks at his records : 10-2, 9-3, 5-6, 7-4....and you'll see my point. They started digressing, not progressing. Not even holding even to where Broadway had them. Washington was handed a Ferrari, but I'm not sure he could handle it. He was beaten by Hampton 30-9 their first year in the Big South (his third year as coach). I think that was the beginning of the end for him. They watched a Hampton program pass them by. A&T has been the best HBCU the last decade or so, and there's no way that should happen. Again, not sure the new coach will fare better...but A&T is chasing more, so a change was coming. I'm not mad at it. I also don't think it had to do with the "right Black face" or because Washington is a SWAC alum. Maybe in the fanboards they are trolls or ignorant comments using that narrative, but I seriously doubt the A&T administration would risk their jobs on that. They went and got a coordinator from one of the better programs in FCS and the conference they were headed to. He also had experience at an HBCU in the MEAC. So it made sense. Y'all really need to stop with the "They're chasing more" narrative. It's old , tired, and worn out. The aggies reasoning for leaving changes depending on which way the wind is blowing that particular day. As for seeing your point. What I see is three winning seasons out of four. With two meac and celebration bowl titles and someone so caught up in the NCAT bs narrative he seem to have gotten confused about what is or isn't a successful coach. |
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 25, 2023 16:41:38 GMT -5
Taking a look at Townsend record for this year, they might not be as good as we give them credit. Still can't sleep on Norfolk. The match-up with Norfolk and A&T should be interesting this week.
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Post by bluedog on Sept 25, 2023 17:43:25 GMT -5
Taking a look at Townsend record for this year, they might not be as good as we give them credit. Still can't sleep on Norfolk. The match-up with Norfolk and A&T should be interesting this week. Who is we? |
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 25, 2023 21:37:52 GMT -5
Taking a look at Townsend record for this year, they might not be as good as we give them credit. Still can't sleep on Norfolk. The match-up with Norfolk and A&T should be interesting this week. Who is we? I was referring to myself and anyone else that may thought Townsend was upper side of fcs talent. If that shoe doesn't fit for you then you're not included in the "we". |
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Post by bluetigga on Sept 26, 2023 0:58:31 GMT -5
Yep, Celebration Bowl wins his first two years. Great point. However, looks at his records : 10-2, 9-3, 5-6, 7-4....and you'll see my point. They started digressing, not progressing. Not even holding even to where Broadway had them. Washington was handed a Ferrari, but I'm not sure he could handle it. He was beaten by Hampton 30-9 their first year in the Big South (his third year as coach). I think that was the beginning of the end for him. They watched a Hampton program pass them by. A&T has been the best HBCU the last decade or so, and there's no way that should happen. Again, not sure the new coach will fare better...but A&T is chasing more, so a change was coming. I'm not mad at it. I also don't think it had to do with the "right Black face" or because Washington is a SWAC alum. Maybe in the fanboards they are trolls or ignorant comments using that narrative, but I seriously doubt the A&T administration would risk their jobs on that. They went and got a coordinator from one of the better programs in FCS and the conference they were headed to. He also had experience at an HBCU in the MEAC. So it made sense. Y'all really need to stop with the "They're chasing more" narrative. It's old , tired, and worn out. The aggies reasoning for leaving changes depending on which way the wind is blowing that particular day. As for seeing your point. What I see is three winning seasons out of four. With two meac and celebration bowl titles and someone so caught up in the NCAT bs narrative he seem to have gotten confused about what is or isn't a successful coach. It's not a narrative blue. It's okay for people to want different things. Similar to how some poster on here wanted to go to the SWAC, some wanted the OVC, others wanted elsewhere. Clearly A&T wanted something different or they'd still be in the MEAC. Not all of their supporters wanted the change but some did. Especially, where the MEAC leadership was when they decided to leave. I would love to see A&T in the MEAC, but I also would love to see them and Hampton dominate the CAA. |
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Post by bluetigga on Sept 26, 2023 1:06:26 GMT -5
Taking a look at Townsend record for this year, they might not be as good as we give them credit. Still can't sleep on Norfolk. The match-up with Norfolk and A&T should be interesting this week. Still a good win for Norfolk. They caught a lot of grief for starting off the season losing to Virginia State, since it's a D-II school. However, Norfolk didn't stay on the mat. Also, VSU is still undefeated for what it's worth. We'll need to show up for the Norfolk game. |
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Post by bluedog on Sept 26, 2023 2:13:45 GMT -5
Y'all really need to stop with the "They're chasing more" narrative. It's old , tired, and worn out. The aggies reasoning for leaving changes depending on which way the wind is blowing that particular day. As for seeing your point. What I see is three winning seasons out of four. With two meac and celebration bowl titles and someone so caught up in the NCAT bs narrative he seem to have gotten confused about what is or isn't a successful coach. It's not a narrative blue. It's okay for people to want different things. Similar to how some poster on here wanted to go to the SWAC, some wanted the OVC, others wanted elsewhere. Clearly A&T wanted something different or they'd still be in the MEAC. Not all of their supporters wanted the change but some did. Especially, where the MEAC leadership was when they decided to leave. I would love to see A&T in the MEAC, but I also would love to see them and Hampton dominate the CAA. You just tried to convince me that by looking at a coaches record of 31-15 with two conference titles and two national titles. With three winning seasons in four years, some how would open my eyes to why NCAT thought he couldn't bring them where they wanted to go. If that's not buying into a made up narrative I don't know what is. Not only was he 31-15 with two conference titles and two national titles. During his time there he gave NCAT there biggest athletic upsets in the history of the school. By defeating the likes of Gardner-Webb, East Carolina (fbs), Elon, Charleston Southern, Robert Morris, North Alabama, and Campbel. Given his track record and NCAT alums constant changing of stories as to why they left. It's the definition of a fabricated narrative or to be more frank about it. It's just an outright lie as to why they let him go. |
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Post by bluetigga on Sept 26, 2023 15:35:43 GMT -5
Either you're progressing, digressing or holding steady. Winning with Broadway's players and losing with your own players is not a narrative...It's facts. Washington inherited a 12-0, championship program; his last two seasons were 5-6 and 7-4. No narratives, just facts. If you can't win, they will find someone who can. Again, not a terrible record, but not moving in the right direction.
Washington never beat FAMU or Morgan State. A&T lost to both in 2018 AND 2019. To put that in perspective...without a probation and postseason ban (Morgan in 2018; FAMU in 2019), the Rattlers would've won the MEAC and went to the Celebration Bowl both years. And A&T had more talent, both years. MEAC wise, Morgan finished 3-4 in 2018 and 2-6 in 2019.
Keep in mind, Broadway had already beaten 2 FBS teams and most of the teams you named. So, I'm not giving Washington credit for upsets/big wins on those. Not sure when any of these schools became powerhouses (Robert Morris, Charleston Southern, Campbell) ??
I count two (1 upset-ECU / 1 big win-Jax State), and both took place in 2018, the year he took over for Broadway. Soon as Broadway's players started to graduate, you saw A&T's performance taper off. I'll even give you a 5-6 Elon team in '19, because Elon's schedule was tough. But these just prove my point, all of these wins are from 2018 & 2019...Washington has digressed. No big wins in 2021 or 2022. He got a mulligan for 2020, since A&T didn't play a fall or spring '21 schedule.
For comparison:
Broadway beat : Kent State (FBS), Charlotte (FBS), Appalachian State, Gardner-Webb, and Elon (3 times)
Washington beat: ECU (FBS); Jax State; *Elon (5-6 in 2019); Robert Morris (4-6 in 2021, 0-11 in 2022); Campbell (5-6 in 2022); Charleston Southern (6-6 in 2019, 4-6 in 2021, 2-8 in 2022)
Not sure what you need to see to know A&T was trending backwards, the proof is in the pudding.
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