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Post by funkiejunkie on Sept 28, 2023 10:13:43 GMT -5
I still have a question, someone please help. The Fed's were sending money [correct] the state were to match [correct] - for several years the state [failed to match] correct. If I am correct, the issue is with the state, not the Feds [correct]. My question is, if TSU and other HBCU's failed to monitor their State Matches, to ensure they were receiving matching funds from the State. What is the purpose of Glover meeting with the Feds. Did TSU have a staff member monitoring the programs. If not why. It's necessary to meet with the Feds because we have a governor in place who has all but said "I'm not giving y'all s#!t" (besides the $200 million), and a legislature who is undoubtedly going to support him. So, 3 things need to happen: 1. TSU should file a lawsuit vs the State of TN. 2. Federal legislation should mandate that all of the land grant states pay what is owed to its universities. 2. Bill Lee and anyone who supports him needs to be voted out.
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Post by roknows50 on Sept 28, 2023 10:23:03 GMT -5
I still have a question, someone please help. The Fed's were sending money [correct] the state were to match [correct] - for several years the state [failed to match] correct. If I am correct, the issue is with the state, not the Feds [correct]. My question is, if TSU and other HBCU's failed to monitor their State Matches, to ensure they were receiving matching funds from the State. What is the purpose of Glover meeting with the Feds. Did TSU have a staff member monitoring the programs. If not why. It's necessary to meet with the Feds because we have a governor in place who has all but said "I'm not giving y'all s#!t" (besides the $200 million), and a legislature who is undoubtedly going to support him. So, 3 things need to happen: 1. TSU should file a lawsuit vs the State of TN. 2. Federal legislation should mandate that all of the land grant states pay what is owed to its universities. 2. Bill Lee and anyone who supports him needs to be voted out. In fairness, that hasn't been Bill Lee's stance on TSU. They have funded higher education fairly decently despite all their awful deeds. We did see an increase in our budget from the state. Harold Love has managed this process fairly well. We should allow him to lead the process. I am going to blunt here. Alot of people are just hopping on the train trying to be the conductor. They need just ride like they were before.
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Post by funkiejunkie on Sept 28, 2023 10:48:41 GMT -5
It's necessary to meet with the Feds because we have a governor in place who has all but said "I'm not giving y'all s#!t" (besides the $200 million), and a legislature who is undoubtedly going to support him. So, 3 things need to happen: 1. TSU should file a lawsuit vs the State of TN. 2. Federal legislation should mandate that all of the land grant states pay what is owed to its universities. 2. Bill Lee and anyone who supports him needs to be voted out. In fairness, that hasn't been Bill Lee's stance on TSU. They have funded higher education fairly decently despite all their awful deeds.We did see an increase in our budget from the state. Harold Love has managed this process fairly well. We should allow him to lead the process. I am going to blunt here. Alot of people are just hopping on the train trying to be the conductor. They need just ride like they were before. What percentage of the funding owed has Bill Lee agreed to provide? Less than 100%? Can I borrow $1000 from you? I'll pay you back $500. I'll inbox you my cashapp
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Post by roknows50 on Sept 28, 2023 10:57:57 GMT -5
In fairness, that hasn't been Bill Lee's stance on TSU. They have funded higher education fairly decently despite all their awful deeds.We did see an increase in our budget from the state. Harold Love has managed this process fairly well. We should allow him to lead the process. I am going to blunt here. Alot of people are just hopping on the train trying to be the conductor. They need just ride like they were before. What percentage of the funding owed has Bill Lee agreed to provide? Less than 100%? Can I borrow $1000 from you? I'll pay you back $500. I'll inbox you my cashapp When has TSU asked for 2.1 billion dollars? No one actually new the exact number of funds missing. The thought was that the number was around 544 million from 1987 to present. 1.9 million annually for agriculture plus the 310 gets you closer to that initial figure. I am sure more reports will come out and the numbers will be bigger. We can't be reactive about the numbers every time a new report comes out. That is what we are doing right now. Again, who are the candidates that support TSU getting funding. How many folks need to be registered to get those folks elected? A real work plan needs to be developed.
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Post by funkiejunkie on Sept 28, 2023 11:11:58 GMT -5
What percentage of the funding owed has Bill Lee agreed to provide? Less than 100%? Can I borrow $1000 from you? I'll pay you back $500. I'll inbox you my cashapp When has TSU asked for 2.1 billion dollars? No one actually new the exact number of funds missing. The thought was that the number was around 544 million from 1987 to present. 1.9 million annually for agriculture plus the 310 gets you closer to that initial figure. I am sure more reports will come out and the numbers will be bigger. We can't be reactive about the numbers every time a new report comes out. That is what we are doing right now. Again, who are the candidates that support TSU getting funding. How many folks need to be registered to get those folks elected? A real work plan needs to be developed. TSU hasn't even gotten the previously documented $500+ million. It's not about being reactive every time a new report comes out; but you can only proceed with the evidence that you have at that moment. When new evidence emerges, you first check the validity, and then proceed with the new information.
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Post by tsu120 on Sept 28, 2023 15:35:41 GMT -5
Question: Is the funds Rep. Love mentioned part of the overall funds or is it a separate amount.
I have to agree.
1. TSU should file a lawsuit vs the State of TN. 2. Federal legislation should mandate that all of the land grant states pay what is owed to its universities. 2. Bill Lee and anyone who supports him needs to be voted out
Another thought, the Feds, can hold other funding from the State, until the state agree to pay TSU. In all honesty, Lee gets his marching orders from the Speaker of the House.
The Legislators are trying to decide if they will accept Federal Funding in the amount of 2B. The Legislators are saying they can make up the difference with State Funds. So they have the funds to pay TSU.
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Post by screamingeaglepride on Sept 28, 2023 17:15:47 GMT -5
The democrat party has done nothing for black Americans. In fact Malcom X warned black Americans about the "white liberal" 60 years ago. The scariest thing for a white democrat is a educated, strong, successful black American. Not saying the Republican Party is the answer. The Republican party sold out black Americans in 1876 when the Republican Party ended reconstruction for political power. So...what is the answer? Start a new Populist Party. Then start at the local elections and elect populist on the local leave
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Post by tsumadness on Sept 29, 2023 2:34:25 GMT -5
I still have a question, someone please help. The Fed's were sending money [correct] the state were to match [correct] - for several years the state [failed to match] correct. If I am correct, the issue is with the state, not the Feds [correct]. My question is, if TSU and other HBCU's failed to monitor their State Matches, to ensure they were receiving matching funds from the State. What is the purpose of Glover meeting with the Feds. Did TSU have a staff member monitoring the programs. If not why. It's necessary to meet with the Feds because we have a governor in place who has all but said "I'm not giving y'all s#!t" (besides the $200 million), and a legislature who is undoubtedly going to support him. So, 3 things need to happen: 1. TSU should file a lawsuit vs the State of TN. 2. Federal legislation should mandate that all of the land grant states pay what is owed to its universities. 2. Bill Lee and anyone who supports him needs to be voted out. In addition, I would ask for an investigation of where this money went for the past 30+ years. This is embezzlement at its highest form.
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Post by jafusthinker on Sept 29, 2023 7:45:17 GMT -5
No Absolutely not. It's not the Republicans or Democrats responsibility to monitor programs within a university. It's the responsibility of the school to have a staff that monitor their programs. When the schools conduct audits on allocated federal fundings, with the understanding there should be state matching funds in place, and there are not. Someone should be asking questions [correct]. If not, then there must be a reason why. If the a university said "we requested" the funding there should be a paper trail. True, "For lack of a better framework, they were simply ignored." and the question is why? Can't blame that on the Democrats or Republicans. If, Texas Southern requested the funds and have a paper trail to prove they requested the matching funds - make it public. As cited during several audit findings at TN State -there has been a lack of follow-up - documentation in several areas. I know that's true for some areas, during my years working with the state. TSU and other Colleges and Universities, was contacted to participate in several studies related to Transportation. For several months, there was no response from TSU. The available funds [Federal and State] was distributed to the other Colleges and Universities. The statement referred to HBCUs. I am providing the board information and context regarding the public HBCUs in the state of Texas. The information I providing was one of the components used for the law case against the state of Texas. In the state of Texas it is about politics. Until the mid 1990s (from the 1970s), it was Democratic control legislature that didn’t fund the two public HBCUs. The deviation in funding was significant, however, it was not as wide as it has been over the last two decades. I will continue to read information and learn the context regarding the state of Tennessee and its public HBCU.
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Post by jafusthinker on Sept 29, 2023 7:56:52 GMT -5
No Absolutely not. It's not the Republicans or Democrats responsibility to monitor programs within a university. It's the responsibility of the school to have a staff that monitor their programs. When the schools conduct audits on allocated federal fundings, with the understanding there should be state matching funds in place, and there are not. Someone should be asking questions [correct]. If not, then there must be a reason why. If the a university said "we requested" the funding there should be a paper trail. True, "For lack of a better framework, they were simply ignored." and the question is why? Can't blame that on the Democrats or Republicans. If, Texas Southern requested the funds and have a paper trail to prove they requested the matching funds - make it public. As cited during several audit findings at TN State -there has been a lack of follow-up - documentation in several areas. I know that's true for some areas, during my years working with the state. TSU and other Colleges and Universities, was contacted to participate in several studies related to Transportation. For several months, there was no response from TSU. The available funds [Federal and State] was distributed to the other Colleges and Universities. Concerning the missing TSU funding, Harold Love describes what the state did to get the matching federal funds. They would act like they gave the full match, and then take it back. www.newschannel5.com/news/how-we-can-make-tsu-whole-again-legislators-promise-to-settle-up-missing-land-grant-fundingThe state of Texas legislature operates its federal funds providing towards higher education (as well as other areas for that matter) in a similar fashion regarding its public HBCUs.
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Post by jafusthinker on Sept 29, 2023 8:12:27 GMT -5
The democrat party has done nothing for black Americans. In fact Malcom X warned black Americans about the "white liberal" 60 years ago. The scariest thing for a white democrat is an educated, strong, successful black American. Not saying the Republican Party is the answer. The Republican party sold out black Americans in 1876 when the Republican Party ended reconstruction for political power. So...what is the answer? For those that believe in the American experiment (some would suggest criminal enterprise), one option is the legal system. However, that is becoming more challenging every election (i.e. local, state, and federal). Others that are more spiritually based, would suggest prayers. I believe every option available should be used.
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Post by jafusthinker on Sept 29, 2023 8:14:29 GMT -5
In fairness, that hasn't been Bill Lee's stance on TSU. They have funded higher education fairly decently despite all their awful deeds.We did see an increase in our budget from the state. Harold Love has managed this process fairly well. We should allow him to lead the process. I am going to blunt here. Alot of people are just hopping on the train trying to be the conductor. They need just ride like they were before. What percentage of the funding owed has Bill Lee agreed to provide? Less than 100%? Can I borrow $1000 from you? I'll pay you back $500. I'll inbox you my cashapp 😂
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Post by funkiejunkie on Sept 29, 2023 9:50:31 GMT -5
For those that believe in the American experiment (some would suggest criminal enterprise), one option is the legal system. However, that is becoming more challenging every election (i.e. local, state, and federal). Others that are more spiritually based, would suggest prayers. I believe every option available should be used. In theory, I am not opposed to a 3rd party; but realistically, how many times have we ever seen a third-party candidate win in any election? In most instances, it ends up taking votes away from the potential winner. If that's going to be the case, is it really worth it? I understand though, because I too am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.
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Post by tsu120 on Sept 29, 2023 10:04:03 GMT -5
For those that believe in the American experiment (some would suggest criminal enterprise), one option is the legal system. However, that is becoming more challenging every election (i.e. local, state, and federal). Others that are more spiritually based, would suggest prayers. I believe every option available should be used. In theory, I am not opposed to a 3rd party; but realistically, how many times have we ever seen a third-party candidate win in any election? In most instances, it ends up taking votes away from the potential winner. If that's going to be the case, is it really worth it? I understand though, because I too am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. Cornell West, Green Party "Peoples Party" I listen to him on TV last night. Thinking, oh no! IMO, undercover for 45
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Post by funkiejunkie on Sept 29, 2023 10:40:34 GMT -5
Usually, third party voting ends up costing Democrats.
One thing about Republicans, as much arguing and bickering as they may do, once they realize that only one candidate can be the representative, they put all of their eggs in that basket.
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