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Post by tsucrat on Jan 18, 2022 9:34:08 GMT -5
The root of the matter sounds like anti-intergration. Fair enough.
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Post by tsundenver on Jan 18, 2022 9:56:40 GMT -5
The root of the matter sounds like anti-intergration. Fair enough. Partly... There is also sounds of insecurity or not thinking we have what it takes to compete, win or dominant a conference not an HBCU. TSU has shown that we can dominate because we have. We have also had poor leadership that lead to our demise. Coach Sanders has shown us we can bring the best talent to our universities. Coach George will (I believe) show us how the right branding and leadership will lead to success not only in the HBCU world but also in all of college football and beyond. A&T's track program has shown us we can be the Tigerbelles of old but we must take advantage of the current climate wear it is popular again to attend an HBCU. We can win at the highest levels!
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Post by bluedog on Jan 18, 2022 13:29:57 GMT -5
The root of the matter sounds like anti-intergration. Fair enough. Once again the real basis of continuing to chase after a 30 plus years failed experiment comes to the surface. I've always known that there were those of you who actually believe you're on some quest for civil rights as if you're stuck back in the 60's. While having convinced yourselves you're being progressive. Well here's a news flash. Integration happen decades ago. You're not fighting for some just cause that you were being denied and you're not going to get a Nobel peace prize award for breaking racial barriers. Even if your were being competitive and won the fcs national title. There's not going to be a visit to the white and recognition for racial harmony with a parade or any sort of fan fair. Hell the couple of times when you did catch them off guard and won an OVC title. There wasn't any big hoopla about it. Because nobody saw it as anything more than a team winning a conference championship. I personally didn't even know TnST had won an OVC title until I was doing research on fcs level hbcus. Because I had no personal interest in following the OVC. All your reply does is basically put an explanation mark on my point. About how it's very normal for black folks to give all their resources to others instead of pooling then together for economic freedom and wealth and that the different path narrative is just one of many self made delusion that allow them to ignore that fact. Some are so committed to this delusion of fighting a made up in their minds civil rights battle. They are willing to risk losing everything in the process.
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Post by tsucrat on Jan 18, 2022 14:32:52 GMT -5
So just curious, how do you feel about HBCUs playing "money games"? And what did you think about the Howard vs ND game?
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Post by bluedog on Jan 18, 2022 14:43:18 GMT -5
Curious as to what that has to do with this conversation. But I felt the same way I feel when any SWAC schools beat or plays a major D1 school competitively. And Almost how I felt about this.
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Post by tsundenver on Jan 18, 2022 15:16:48 GMT -5
I was working in the ATL with engineers that attended GA TECH in 1993... Man you would have thought I was a Southern Grad.. I let those arrogant GA Tech engineers have it!!
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Post by tsucrat on Jan 18, 2022 16:41:43 GMT -5
It's just to help me draw the line of what's okay with you. So with that response I assume that it's okay to play against anyone, but the line is drawn with conference affiliation. Okay, cool.
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Post by bluedog on Jan 18, 2022 17:42:45 GMT -5
It's just to help me draw the line of what's okay with you. So with that response I assume that it's okay to play against anyone, but the line is drawn with conference affiliation. Okay, cool. Lol..man some of you are so obsessed with what you've been brainwashed to believe is the right and only way to accomplish a goal by white folks. You just make up in your minds false narratives that just aren't there and never were. Swac school were playing pwis long before desegregation was done. They been doing so long before any other fcs hbcu conference even started up to this day. But because of the constant brainwashing by them, because the swac chose to take another route to get to fbs level. Folks bought into the segregation bullchit hook, line and sinker. Even though they're seeing swac schools play pwi more then ever now with their own eyes because of the internet. It's a hell of a spell white folks have on far too many of us. What makes this type of brainwashing even more messed up then it already is. It's always been them that didn't want to play us. Even to this day it's us running to them to join their conference. Not the other way around. A perfect example is the Southland Conference is as in much danger of being defunct as any of them. But they would rather trak half way across the country in a fail attempt to make a merger that if nothing else will speed up their demise rather then help them because of cost. Before any of them would ask for entry into the swac. A conference in the exact same footprint as theirs and is exploding at the moment. But yet they have managed to brainwash folks into buying into that it's us that don't want to play them. All the while trying to court us to join them. It would actually be hilarious if it wasn't so freaking sad on black folks part for falling for it.
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Post by bluedog on Jan 18, 2022 17:53:48 GMT -5
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Post by bluedog on Jan 18, 2022 18:00:54 GMT -5
Look Ma! We're playing PWIs. Smh...brainwashing is the most horrible form of torture without any doubt.
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Post by tsucrat on Jan 18, 2022 18:36:16 GMT -5
You feel better now?
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Post by bluedog on Jan 18, 2022 21:08:15 GMT -5
Have you left your echo chamber now and entered the real world?
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Post by tsucrat on Jan 18, 2022 22:28:57 GMT -5
Nah you still don't. What do you need to see me type to make you feel better?
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Post by bluedog on Jan 18, 2022 23:22:37 GMT -5
Slurpee
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Post by bluetigga on Jan 19, 2022 20:58:27 GMT -5
I don't think you worry about where you're going to finish. Going to the CAA should help them in recruiting. That's the exact same thing that was said when they (meac) opt out of the heritage bowl for the fcs playoffs. It's the exact same thing that was said when they abandon the meac for the Big South. Over three decades and a half later the same old tired script is being used for poor judgment at best and plain old fashion stupidity at worst. Name one school that left one failed attempt at a conference change. To go to another conference that's three times as tough and knowing they aren't going to be able to even be mediocre in that conference. Name one.... I'll wait. As one of your Illustrious posters said, TnST is a big enough case study for all schools not to make the same mistake. In this case they are letting their administration double down on the ridiculous. The worst thing about all this, he won't be anywhere to be found to even try and help clean up the mess. Well the playoffs is not a recruiting tool. But them playing in one of the top conferences is. Along with schools in their geographic footprint such as William & Mary & Richmond. That will definitely boost recruiting compared to the BS (Kennesaw State, Monmouth etc). Not to mention the BS has become a little shaky. Now as for the MEAC, we know why the left the MEAC...the same reason FAMU & BCU left to join the SWAC. Until they believe in the leadership again, I doubt it's an option. Hampton's circumstances are a lot different than TSU's. As good as Hampton has been in the 2000s at football, I believe they preferred the CAA for basketball just as much as football. It's definitely a good move in that since. The OVC has never been as strong as the CAA in football which is TSU top sport. So slightly different. Also Hampton has never had great attendance in football. So them leaving the MEAC won't hurt that. TSU being in the OVC has hurt it's attendance. Big difference in the two. Things can change, but as of now, the CAA is a good move for Hampton. I would love to see them in the MEAC but they made the right decision. Hoping the new MEAC commissioner can stabilize it and grow it.
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