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Post by roknows50 on Sept 15, 2022 9:29:54 GMT -5
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Post by tsundenver on Sept 15, 2022 11:06:57 GMT -5
"This housing master plan entails expanding our housing capacity to over 6,000 beds by building new halls, renovating two existing halls Rudolph and Hale, and replacing 4 older halls, Wilson, Watson, Eppse and Boyd, over the next three to ten years."
BY THE TIME THE NEW HALLS ARE BUILT, THE NEED WILL LIKELY EXCEED WELL BEYOND 6000 BEDS. BUT GOOD TO KNOW THERE IS A PLAN.
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Sept 15, 2022 13:44:21 GMT -5
Well, on page 60 of the notes there is a mentioning of a Capital Construction Public Private Partnership Residence Hall Project. This is what some of have been talking about for a few years now. It would allow TSU to create additional housing through public private partnerships. Developers would build student housing on TSU property. The developer assumes all risks of cost to build. The developer would also maintain the building. TSU will in essence lease the building over a period of time at a negotiated cost so that the developer has a fixed return on their investment. Once that contract period ends TSU would take ownership of the building for an agreed upon cost as well. The notes indicates $1.00. But that is being speculative. That cost will be determined by how the contract is negotiated for the entire project to include design, construction, general maintenance and additional facility enhancements/upgrades.
There are several universities doing this nationwide. It really is a quicker way for schools to increasing student housing without a major outlay of money on the front end. And, TSU could do this without having to receive appropriated funds from the State. And, they would be able to avoid the lengthy process of following the States requirements for approval during the design phase and then the construction phase. That being said, more than likely, TSU will need to hire a third party to aid the university in managing the scope of such a project in its totality.
If Dr. Glover was smart, she would try to get Tony Giarratano, the hottest developer in Nashville to be on the TSU BOT. Tony would bring a high level of experience and resources to the BOT. He has been very instrumental in transforming Nashville. He could possibly be instrumental in transforming not only the TSU campus but the university as a whole. Tony is the developer looking to build a 30+ story tower next to the TSU downtown campus. He would certainly be of benefit to TSU in managing public private construction projects.
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Post by tiger1 on Mar 16, 2023 8:52:38 GMT -5
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Post by tiger1 on Mar 16, 2023 8:56:04 GMT -5
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Post by roknows50 on Mar 16, 2023 8:57:03 GMT -5
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Post by roknows50 on Mar 16, 2023 13:42:44 GMT -5
Good to see that the board is asking significantly more questions.
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Post by tsumadness on Mar 17, 2023 16:21:08 GMT -5
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Post by tsu120 on Mar 17, 2023 18:56:11 GMT -5
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Post by tsu120 on Mar 17, 2023 19:01:04 GMT -5
That is not totally true. The state has been giving TSU money for years for maintenance and the university had not maintained the facilities. As we have stated many time, the university need to develop a maintenance plan for each building.
I have been to many basketball games, there are light out in the parking lot, the sign as you enter the driveway to Gentry, has been out since the Tornado - so the school don't have money to replace light bulbs. Part of the fence is down on the backside of Hale, Gate is falling down at the entrance of the new parking lot behind GRC, I contacted Glover two months ago about the swimming pool, the issue still has not been corrected. Security Guards, have to wear over coats the places are not heated.- It's the small things that make the campus look bad.
Just send the maintenance staff to correct the problems.
Look like they are constructing a parking lot across from the Home Economic Building.
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Post by roknows50 on Mar 17, 2023 22:46:23 GMT -5
That is not totally true. The state has been giving TSU money for years for maintenance and the university had not maintained the facilities. As we have stated many time, the university need to develop a maintenance plan for each building. I have been to many basketball games, there are light out in the parking lot, the sign as you enter the driveway to Gentry, has been out since the Tornado - so the school don't have money to replace light bulbs. Part of the fence is down on the backside of Hale, Gate is falling down at the entrance of the new parking lot behind GRC, I contacted Glover two months ago about the swimming pool, the issue still has not been corrected. Security Guards, have to wear over coats the places are not heated.- It's the small things that make the campus look bad. Just send the maintenance staff to correct the problems. Look like they are constructing a parking lot across from the Home Economic Building. I agree. There is no real way a President from 10 years ago would recognize that they need to house a higher significant percentage of students. It isn't like our total enrollment has ballooned to 15k or 20k. Trustee McKenzie is just making excuses.
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Post by tsumadness on Mar 18, 2023 1:53:37 GMT -5
Glenda gets blamed for everything. Just a couple of years ago, folks wanted to oust her from the presidency because of fallen enrollment. Remember, Hankel Hall was converted (not sure what year) to an athletic office because of falling enrollment. Now, there is suddenly an increase of students, and folks want to blame her for not being ready for it. Could she have been a little bit more prepared for it, yes, but there is no way TSU was going to have three new dorms built by fall 2022, especially when some schools were considering not opening their doors in the fall of 2020 because of COVID. I’m sure most schools were probably projecting lower enrollment for the foreseeable future.
Lack of funds is nothing new to TSU. From the day the doors opened on this campus in 1912, I’m sure there have discussions everyday about the lack of funds. We’ve all heard them from when we were students to current-day. Teachers complain about lack of resources. Athletic coaches complain about lack of money for recruiting, uniforms/equipment, and upkeep of facilities. Students complain about cleanliness, resources, and everything under the sun. So, why do y’all act like all of this started under Glover?
Do you want her to use endowment money? That wouldn’t make sense. Is it supposed to come from the alumni, when only 5% of TSU alums donate to the university? And of that 5%, most is only going towards scholarships. And guess what she did with those scholarships??? She handed them out to students like she does every year, but I’ll be damned…a bunch of kids took her up on her offer.
So, where do you think this money is supposed to come from? What big pot is she reaching into when over 75% of the kids who attend TSU are on some type of financial assistance? Because she can’t get it from the parents, when many of the kids are first generation college students.
I get it, she and TSU can do better. But where was all this hate or discernment with Dr. Shields, Dr. Johnson, Dr. Hefner, Dr. Cox, Dr. Floyd., Dr. Peterson, Dr. Humphries, and etc? Because during the tenure of each of those presidents, the campus was in worse shape than it is today. Trust me when I say that we are in a better place financially than 40 years ago. So, give her some credit. Our endowment is about to the $100million mark, when is was just over $40million not even 20 yrs ago.
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Post by tsu120 on Mar 18, 2023 5:48:26 GMT -5
madness, your point is well taken, It's not hate! It's Embarrassing to see TSU on the news two to three times a year. with issues. Remember, Sr. Glover is the one that toured various cities recruiting students [Florida, Memphis, Atlanta] and offering them scholarships on the spot. We even discussed it here about housing and where the funding would come from. Now, there is nothing wrong with her recruiting, but as the President, knowing there were current students living off campus and would would return to campus because of the cost of renting. In fact, the topic was discussed in one of the meetings. Dr. Glover, Housing, Admissions and Recruiting should have been working together. Yes, everyone is pointing the finger at her, no different than the public and government pointing the finger at the President of SW Airlines. Your statement is correct She handed them out to students like she does every year, but I’ll be damned…a bunch of kids took her up on her offer. I think all of us was surprised. And COVID was part of the issue, students was allowed to enroll in college using only their High School grades. The housing issue started about three of four years ago, as you mentioned after Hankel was closed about four years ago. I just don't like how people continue to say the $250 Mil, is responsible for the lacking of housing, it's not. As many times as it has said said how the funds are to be used. If McKenzie, had spent more time listening instead of tooting his own horn, perhaps he would understand the word "Infrastructure" Last week: TSU had problems with the computers campus wide- "ransomware". Students' were upset because they could not take test, home work assignments etc. No one is blaming Dr. Glover. She, should be asking the university IT Department, what happened, isn't there a Firewall, Anti Virus, when was the last time it was updated. and I am sure she is - IT should be able to answer the questions, if I want to know why - what is the source. If this happen again, then the issue will become a larger issue - the questions will be directed towards Dr. Glover, she must be prepared www.newschannel5.com/news/tsu-using-extreme-caution-with-internet-access-for-students-and-staff-following-ransomware-threat
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Post by tsumadness on Mar 18, 2023 13:17:30 GMT -5
Respectfully 120, the $500mill that was not given to TSU is an issue. Millions was supposed to be matched and given to TSU every year. Imagine if that happened regularly for the past 50 years; we could have kept up maintenance, teacher salaries, upkeep of old and building of new facilities, and etc.
Here’s an example: What happens when you let a car sit without providing it with regular proper maintenance? It breaks down even further which will require more money to get fix because by letting it sit, you allowed more things to go wrong.
The same thing happened with TSU by not receiving its regular payments from the state over the years to keep its engine running. Those who blame the state for underfunding and being contributors to the current state of TSU, are absolutely correct in their assessment.
But I can’t let alums off the hook either…it’s our fault, too.
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Post by tsumadness on Mar 18, 2023 13:28:47 GMT -5
And my last and final point and I’ll digress; TSU cannot and is not responsible for housing all of its students. I think it would be great if they did, but it’s not feasible. What makes it a problem at TSU is because so many low income students need it. For instance…
One of the main reasons my girls decided not to attend Howard was because on-campus housing is not guaranteed after their freshman year. Even though they both received scholarships, I am thankful that my daughters are thoughtful enough to know that paying for off-campus housing in their latter years, was going to put a hurting on a brothas wallet.
Even at FAMU, my oldest was going to have to move off campus until she received an RA position. Most upperclassmen at FAMU were off-campus. With the building of several new dorms, some are able to move back on campus.
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