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Post by roknows50 on Oct 28, 2017 19:27:48 GMT -5
At the end of the day, it comes down to recruiting. TSU needs a coach / staff that can recruit some top 3 star recruits, to overcome any deficiencies in coaching. They need players who can take over a game, and win it . . period. Look at what Austin Peay has done with just 2 recruiting classes. This current freshman class has made all the difference in that program. At halftime, they're battling #18 Central Florida as hard as they can, even if they can't stop UCF on offense. 45 - 26 at halftime. Should've been 37 - 26 had they just ran the clock out to end the half. After losing 26 games in a row, and 46 of their last 47 games, they're going to have a winning record, and probably finish with only 1 loss in conference play. That's ridiculous. Meanwhile, TSU continues its Jeckyl and Hyde play year after year. You never know what you'll get out of this team. Dominating Barely squeaking by the HBCU schools mean nothing, if you can't win the big conference games. Honestly, there's no reason to be excited about this program. That's also why you can't blame the city for not supporting this program. The "winning tradition" of the program was made back in the 1960s and 70s. No such thing now. And it's been like this for almost 2 decades. Calling for the coach being on the hot seat isn't an overreaction. Calling this a lackluster and mediocre program isn't an overreaction . . . it's a TSU reality. I agree with you in the fact that they need to get the best coach possible, regardless of where he comes from or what color he is. They need to get guys who can be impact players as true freshmen, not in their junior year. After beating Georgia State in Atlanta, this should've been a breakout year for the program. Instead, it's the same ol, same ol. - 1 playoff appearance in 18 years - 0 conference championships in 18 years - only 4 eight win seasons in 18 years - only 7 winning seasons in 18 years - 11 non-winning seasons in 18 years - only 1 time have they lost 1 or less conference games in 18 years - but they've won only 1 or less conference games 4 times in 18 years And some of you guys wonder why the fans can't get hyped about this program, and spend their money watching them to boost attendance. They have literally given them no reason to. IF the OVC is too tough for them, maybe they should get out. Wanting to hire a guy who has NCAA penalties is overacting.that us exactly what I said. Programs just don't start to win by accident. A lot of things have to be in place Since we talking historical here and not really about Coach Reed, TSU chose for the past 20 years to build a travelling fan base. We are getting what we are planned for. We chose to go with the tradition of HBCU football, and we got burned. 60-70s strategies just won't work.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 28, 2017 19:28:30 GMT -5
Wanting to hire a guy who has NCAA penalties is overreacting.that is exactly what I said. Programs just don't start to win by accident. A lot of things have to be in place Since we talking historical here and not really about Coach Reed, TSU chose for the past 20 years to build a travelling fan base. We are getting what we are planned for. We chose to go with the tradition of HBCU football, and we got burned. 60-70s strategies just won't work.
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Post by roarman53 on Oct 28, 2017 20:04:27 GMT -5
John Merritt Classic>Lost
HomeComing>Lost
Up Again'st An 0-7 Team>Lost
Just Plain Pitiful!!!!!
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Oct 28, 2017 22:17:22 GMT -5
The MEAC will have an opening next year. They still don't have a championship game, so I think it's possible to still go to the FCS playoffs if you don't want to play in the Celebration Bowl. Fans will get the HBCU games they say is more important to them. We will get a true home and home with one of key rivals in FAMU. It'll make it easier to schedule and HBCU for the JMC. We could still play JSU in the SHC. We would have some pretty good home games against NCA&T, NCCU, BCU, and SCSU. We'll probably get invited to play in the MEAC/SWAC Challenge which is televised nationally. Sure our travel cost will increase. But, we just might be able to compete more and win a conference championship in football and other sports. We will be able to schedule at least two FBS games because they MEAC schools don't all play each each year. And, most importantly, those of us who live in the mid-Atlantic area would get to see TSU in person more often with road games to Howard, Morgan and Delaware State in football. Add MD Eastern Shore and Coppin State in basketball. Hell, if we are winning, I'd travel down to Norfolk and Hampton and even to NCCU and NCA&T.
I say lets do it. Not just because we're not competing in the OVC but because we need to do something different to bring some excitement back to the program. I'd rather it be the MEAC than the SWAC. And, once we get dominate in the MEAC, let move up to FBS .... Who's on board with me? C'mon... Who wants to push to make joining the MEAC happen?
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 28, 2017 22:34:12 GMT -5
The MEAC will have an opening next year. They still don't have a championship game, so I think it's possible to still go to the FCS playoffs if you don't want to play in the Celebration Bowl. Fans will get the HBCU games they say is more important to them. We will get a true home and home with one of key rivals in FAMU. It'll make it easier to schedule and HBCU for the JMC. We could still play JSU in the SHC. We would have some pretty good home games against NCA&T, NCCU, BCU, and SCSU. We'll probably get invited to play in the MEAC/SWAC Challenge which is televised nationally. Sure our travel cost will increase. But, we just might be able to compete more and win a conference championship in football and other sports. We will be able to schedule at least two FBS games because they MEAC schools don't all play each each year. And, most importantly, those of us who live in the mid-Atlantic area would get to see TSU in person more often with road games to Howard, Morgan and Delaware State in football. Add MD Eastern Shore and Coppin State in basketball. Hell, if we are winning, I'd travel down to Norfolk and Hampton and even to NCCU and NCA&T. I say lets do it. Not just because we're not competing in the OVC but because we need to do something different to bring some excitement back to the program. I'd rather it be the MEAC than the SWAC. And, once we get dominate in the MEAC, let move up to FBS .... Who's on board with me? C'mon... Who wants to push to make joining the MEAC happen? This will be the day I start tailgating with everyone else. Naw. I would stop supporting TSU sports all together. Lets drive the car in reverse and see how far we get. TSU fans are real emotional. Let's dig up Merritt from the grave and let him coach as well.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 28, 2017 22:44:13 GMT -5
We joined the OVC with a HBCU strategy and all we do is scapegoat a few coaches.
The OVC is vastly different from when Cole won it too.
serious question, how many succesful fcs teams out there that only host 4 home games per season?
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Post by btiger on Oct 28, 2017 23:27:21 GMT -5
We cannot join the meac. The other sports would not survive. Basketball, volleyball, softball, tennis and golf would not be able to travel and it would be a ton of school time missed in all sports.
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Post by CalTiger on Oct 29, 2017 0:17:00 GMT -5
I think we need to let Reed and his entire staff go. I think we need to bring in an offensive head coach; Reed is a defensive coach.
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Post by roarman53 on Oct 29, 2017 3:06:43 GMT -5
I think we need to let Reed and his entire staff go. I think we need to bring in an offense head coach; Reed is a defensive coach. Reed needs save himself and TSU a little face by resigning as of Monday morning. He is a Son of TSU and firing him would most definitely be very difficult for Teresa, But shes had to fire Alumni before, Ask James Reese! I don't know anything about the Jacksonville State Offensive Coordinator, But he would be high on my list of people I would like to talk to.
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Post by blue72 on Oct 29, 2017 5:16:18 GMT -5
- You need to fire the AD, this is just a paying job to her, she's not and never been serious about TSU at all, this is a comfortable paying job for her, with a title of being a female AD. - The current President has not understanding/clueless of athletics, of what it takes to put winning programs, she's satisfied with a photo opt with trump, and getting a front row seat at the SHC to watch the game vs Jackson State. - Reed is a 5-6 year a win coach, nothing more,,, with all the excellent athletics TSU has had during Reed's tenure, he has produced nothing. - TSU ,if they want to be a championship caliber team, stop with the HBCU menatility,,, stay in the OVC,play OVC style football, play only JSU in the Southern Heritage Game,,, FAMU in the Merritt Game, and stop using the classic terminology, it's BS,,,.
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Post by Bvtiger on Oct 29, 2017 9:46:16 GMT -5
I don't think the guys are over reacting. Cole is a stretch but some thing needs to happen. 6-6 is 500 but that is not good enough for TSU and the fans.
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Post by tsu120 on Oct 29, 2017 11:13:35 GMT -5
I am not making an excuse for the WR.
But, when 90% of the practice time is focused on the running game.
We see the end results.
I keep saying you play like you practice.
I don't think recruiting is the primary problem. The problem is Coaching (period). Parker, can't think beyond one play at a time. Coaching, is like playing chess, you have to think three to four plays in advance. It's called "What if this or that happen"
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Post by kmack1985 on Oct 29, 2017 12:03:05 GMT -5
I wasn't really serious with the L.C. Cole reference, but there at least needs to be a big change in the offense for next year.
I think that the Hurry Up, No Huddle spread with a mobile QB is the correct path for the offense. Every candidate needs to have that as their philosophy.
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Post by tsumadness on Oct 29, 2017 17:19:18 GMT -5
In regards to wins and losses in the Reed era, the onus is on the coaches. We may not have superior talent, but we have enough to be competitive and have multiple winning seasons in the OVC; just look at the number of guys drafted or who've had NFL contracts during Reed's tenure. I'm not sure what the specific problem is with TSU's program, but year after year, we watch these guys look flat, unprepared, and undisciplined. There is definitely a problem with motivating, play calling, and disciplining. Although players make in-game mistakes, there is no reason a player like Patrick Smith should be making the same mistake he made in this game that he made in the EIU game...that could've been the reason we lost that game, but was bailed out by the no-call at the end of the game. That mistake alone, is a direct correlation of (lack-of) disciplining and coaching.
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Oct 29, 2017 18:04:18 GMT -5
The MEAC will have an opening next year. They still don't have a championship game, so I think it's possible to still go to the FCS playoffs if you don't want to play in the Celebration Bowl. Fans will get the HBCU games they say is more important to them. We will get a true home and home with one of key rivals in FAMU. It'll make it easier to schedule and HBCU for the JMC. We could still play JSU in the SHC. We would have some pretty good home games against NCA&T, NCCU, BCU, and SCSU. We'll probably get invited to play in the MEAC/SWAC Challenge which is televised nationally. Sure our travel cost will increase. But, we just might be able to compete more and win a conference championship in football and other sports. We will be able to schedule at least two FBS games because they MEAC schools don't all play each each year. And, most importantly, those of us who live in the mid-Atlantic area would get to see TSU in person more often with road games to Howard, Morgan and Delaware State in football. Add MD Eastern Shore and Coppin State in basketball. Hell, if we are winning, I'd travel down to Norfolk and Hampton and even to NCCU and NCA&T. I say lets do it. Not just because we're not competing in the OVC but because we need to do something different to bring some excitement back to the program. I'd rather it be the MEAC than the SWAC. And, once we get dominate in the MEAC, let move up to FBS .... Who's on board with me? C'mon... Who wants to push to make joining the MEAC happen? This will be the day I start tailgating with everyone else. Naw. I would stop supporting TSU sports all together. Lets drive the car in reverse and see how far we get. TSU fans are real emotional. Let's dig up Merritt from the grave and let him coach as well. Not being emotional. Just being facetious. I'm not for joining either of the HBCU conferences. But, I have to admit I'm no longer totally against it. Yes, I believe it would be step down. But, we need support and we need games that our fans are interested in. Even if we were winning consistently, I don't know if that would be enough to increase fan support. There really needs to be a conference realignment ....
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