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Post by roarman53 on Oct 18, 2017 20:10:54 GMT -5
Roar53, there were many chants and tunes the band played during the game that got the crowd hyped during my years. I don't know when the band decided to insert their name into the TS TS TS TSU song, but back in the early 80's students (yours truly in particular) introduced "TENNESSEE, A TENNESSEE STATE" into the song during a game that TSU had fought there way back into and for some reason as I and others continued to shout it out, TSU fans all over Vandy's stadium started chanting it as well as part of the song, and next thing you know it became of the tradition. Before the game was over, Prof Graves came into our section and asked who started that... and people pointed at me and he just said... I like that. This was back int a time when TSU had a true game day experience. Games on campus started with tailgating up near the practice field, the old barn and the nursing building. It was a tradition for the band to march from the music building down to the stadium. People would already be gathered in the stadium and people walking to the stadium would stop to watch the band parade to the stadium. As the band entered the stadium the crowd would rise to their feet as they marched around the track to the visitors side. Once the teams left the field from pre-game warm ups the band would take the field and do a pre-game show typically playing marches and eventually leading to a few soul songs that were fan favorites. There was one song in particular that I wish I knew the name that had a chant in it that the whole stadium would join in on. Then you had the team running out onto the field through the band, the national anthem was played and it was game time. The band consistently had chants they played while on defense and offense. Whether it be a simple DEFENSE-DEFENSE chant to drums or LETS GO. I just don't recall so much dead space in our games. I know the OVC has stricter rules on bands playing, but if you look at all the OVC schools... ALL OF THEM... their bands consistently play whether on defense or offense. They just know when to start and when to pipe it down. Once the ball is snapped you can play. While in the huddle you can play. As the team approaches the line you can play. You stop or tone it down once the QB is in position to call the play. You don't need to play whole songs and that's what TSU and other HBCU's bands try to do. FAMU and Southern seem to be the only HBCU bands that still have chants. BCU has a few as well. But the crats seem to be all about playing whole songs than creating an experience tied to the game. I wish our band directors would look at major FBS football games so that they can learn from the game time experience they create. I've never watched an SEC game that is dead silent. I've never even watched an OVC game other than those at TSU that silent. The OVC is not that restrictive. We've taken a rule and over implement the compliance. That is if we are concerned about that. If you think other OVC bands are sitting quietly during games, I want you to view some of the on-demand games on the OVC site. Take a look in particular at our games at UTM and EKU. You will see and hear their bands throughout the entire game. Hell I even found it funny when one of EKU's fans complained on their site that their band may have hurt them on a possession because they were playing during the play. Yes, I'm old school. I think we need traditions. If you let them slip away, so does your heritage. Traditions can be modified and new traditions can be created, but they shouldn't be stowed away unless they are culturally wrong. Traditions help to connect one generation to another. Small example than I'm done. A few years ago my best friend turned 50. He wanted to celebrate his b'day in France. Close to 30 people made the trip to Paris and to the wine country of France for his b'day. We actually celebrated his b'day in a castle in wine country for two nights. The night of his b'day we partied all night. In addition to me, there was one other person there who graduated from TSU. She graduated in the early 2000's, I graduated in 1984. So, decades between us. The DJ played The Show, which is one of the songs the Crats play in the stands... we both danced towards each other and we both simultaneously shouted Whoooo Oooooo!!! Whoooo Ooooo!!! and we got a huge laugh out of it and others looked at us like... what was that? ... and we said it's a TSU thang ya'll wouldn't know anything about that. There was a BCU grad there that knew and he got it as well as a grad from Bama State. Anyway, that was a moment in which a school tradition connected two generations separated by 20 years. There's another alum in the DC area that was at a party I attended and he too did the same thing. And, I loved that when he was asked by someone else how did we know one another he said because we are both from "the land of golden sunshine, by the Cumberlands fertile shores...." So even knowing the alma mater is important to our tradition. DC, I can't thank you enough for creating, What I think is our Most Enjoyed Song/Chant...(TS TS TS...U...Sometimes I even thought it made our opponents blood turn TSU blue for a moment, Lol. But, DC, roknows, Are you both saying that OVC rules have relegated the Aristocrats to just giving the fans little sound bites when it comes to the playing of this Song/Chant...I'm sure I'm not the only one here who wants to know.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 18, 2017 20:39:44 GMT -5
Roar53, there were many chants and tunes the band played during the game that got the crowd hyped during my years. I don't know when the band decided to insert their name into the TS TS TS TSU song, but back in the early 80's students (yours truly in particular) introduced "TENNESSEE, A TENNESSEE STATE" into the song during a game that TSU had fought there way back into and for some reason as I and others continued to shout it out, TSU fans all over Vandy's stadium started chanting it as well as part of the song, and next thing you know it became of the tradition. Before the game was over, Prof Graves came into our section and asked who started that... and people pointed at me and he just said... I like that. This was back int a time when TSU had a true game day experience. Games on campus started with tailgating up near the practice field, the old barn and the nursing building. It was a tradition for the band to march from the music building down to the stadium. People would already be gathered in the stadium and people walking to the stadium would stop to watch the band parade to the stadium. As the band entered the stadium the crowd would rise to their feet as they marched around the track to the visitors side. Once the teams left the field from pre-game warm ups the band would take the field and do a pre-game show typically playing marches and eventually leading to a few soul songs that were fan favorites. There was one song in particular that I wish I knew the name that had a chant in it that the whole stadium would join in on. Then you had the team running out onto the field through the band, the national anthem was played and it was game time. The band consistently had chants they played while on defense and offense. Whether it be a simple DEFENSE-DEFENSE chant to drums or LETS GO. I just don't recall so much dead space in our games. I know the OVC has stricter rules on bands playing, but if you look at all the OVC schools... ALL OF THEM... their bands consistently play whether on defense or offense. They just know when to start and when to pipe it down. Once the ball is snapped you can play. While in the huddle you can play. As the team approaches the line you can play. You stop or tone it down once the QB is in position to call the play. You don't need to play whole songs and that's what TSU and other HBCU's bands try to do. FAMU and Southern seem to be the only HBCU bands that still have chants. BCU has a few as well. But the crats seem to be all about playing whole songs than creating an experience tied to the game. I wish our band directors would look at major FBS football games so that they can learn from the game time experience they create. I've never watched an SEC game that is dead silent. I've never even watched an OVC game other than those at TSU that silent. The OVC is not that restrictive. We've taken a rule and over implement the compliance. That is if we are concerned about that. If you think other OVC bands are sitting quietly during games, I want you to view some of the on-demand games on the OVC site. Take a look in particular at our games at UTM and EKU. You will see and hear their bands throughout the entire game. Hell I even found it funny when one of EKU's fans complained on their site that their band may have hurt them on a possession because they were playing during the play. Yes, I'm old school. I think we need traditions. If you let them slip away, so does your heritage. Traditions can be modified and new traditions can be created, but they shouldn't be stowed away unless they are culturally wrong. Traditions help to connect one generation to another. Small example than I'm done. A few years ago my best friend turned 50. He wanted to celebrate his b'day in France. Close to 30 people made the trip to Paris and to the wine country of France for his b'day. We actually celebrated his b'day in a castle in wine country for two nights. The night of his b'day we partied all night. In addition to me, there was one other person there who graduated from TSU. She graduated in the early 2000's, I graduated in 1984. So, decades between us. The DJ played The Show, which is one of the songs the Crats play in the stands... we both danced towards each other and we both simultaneously shouted Whoooo Oooooo!!! Whoooo Ooooo!!! and we got a huge laugh out of it and others looked at us like... what was that? ... and we said it's a TSU thang ya'll wouldn't know anything about that. There was a BCU grad there that knew and he got it as well as a grad from Bama State. Anyway, that was a moment in which a school tradition connected two generations separated by 20 years. There's another alum in the DC area that was at a party I attended and he too did the same thing. And, I loved that when he was asked by someone else how did we know one another he said because we are both from "the land of golden sunshine, by the Cumberlands fertile shores...." So even knowing the alma mater is important to our tradition. DC, I can't thank you enough for creating, What I think is our Most Enjoyed Song/Chant...(TS TS TS...U...Sometimes I even thought it made our opponents blood turn TSU blue for a moment, Lol. But, DC, roknows, Are you both saying that OVC rules have relegated the Aristocrats to just giving the fans little sound bites when it comes to the playing of this Song/Chant...I'm sure I'm not the only one here who wants to know. I am not blaming the OVC on this ....
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Post by roarman53 on Oct 18, 2017 21:00:49 GMT -5
DC, I can't thank you enough for creating, What I think is our Most Enjoyed Song/Chant...(TS TS TS...U...Sometimes I even thought it made our opponents blood turn TSU blue for a moment, Lol. But, DC, roknows, Are you both saying that OVC rules have relegated the Aristocrats to just giving the fans little sound bites when it comes to the playing of this Song/Chant...I'm sure I'm not the only one here who wants to know. I am not blaming the OVC on this .... roknows, Why are you being evasive? I want to know, because I'm about to e-mail TP, to get to the bottom of this situation/mess, Did you know that someone at TSU had made a decision (last year) to discontinue the (Tiger Growl) over the PA for the home games at Hale? TP says she over ruled that decision. What the L is going on at TSU??
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Post by tsu120 on Oct 19, 2017 6:51:50 GMT -5
All the complaints / concerns is a result of the lack of concern and poor management on behalf of TSU “Period” At one point in the game, I believe it was the final minutes of the fourth quarter AP’s Fans started chanting “Let’s go PEAY” and the TSU Fans act as it they were attending a funeral, actually they (we) was because of the PF Face Mask, called on a TSU Offensive Lineman.
Folks, we might as well forget it. There are no more Dr. Hale’s; Davis; Torrance, Humphreys, Gillam’s, Merritt’s’, Coleman’s, Gentry, Sr.; or Coles, Old Buddy, Leon Moore and others. Big Blue Football is a sinking ship. Fan’s like ourselves, are a dying breed.
I recall back in the day, when TSU played in Memphis at the Old Crump Stadium, practically “everyone” in the local counties attended the game; they talked about the AOB and coaches. Here it is 20017, and you can’t get a decent number of locals from Nashville to attend the game. The sad part is, a majority of the students does not attend the games. For the most part if they do, the males are wearing, something with UTK, Alabama and other SEC Schools. I have several college shirts, but I only wear TSU.
The administrators at TSU are about self and no one else.
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Oct 19, 2017 9:39:05 GMT -5
Roarman, I'm not blaming the OVC. The OVC has rules and policies that apply to all schools. I think the issue is the way TSU interprets those rules and instead of creating a game time experience that works within those rules, they just don't try to create a game time experience that keeps the fans engaged. The Crats used to get warnings all the time when we first joined the conference because they played when TSU wasn't on offense when the opposing team approached the line of scrimmage to start the play. Even our own team had to tell the band to pipe down at times when we were on offense. The band was used to conducting themselves in the manner in which HBCU's carried out football games which is different than non-HBCU's. HBCU's used to extend halftime. HBCU bands often played whole songs during the game even while the teams are calling plays. They did that until the teams would actually say something. Which was very rare. Non-HBCU's didn't operate in that manner. Thus the OVC isn't going to operate in that manner. But now the HBCU conferences are also applying such rules.
I honestly just believe that it on TSU to understand the rules and how to organize a game time experience within those rules. All the other schools do. Now, if we follow the methods used by other schools and get hit by the officials during the game or by the OVC, then we should raise concern about that.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 19, 2017 22:35:04 GMT -5
I really wish an athletic advisory board could be formed to help assist.
I think a lot of energy or almost all the energy us being placed into tailgating and the box seats.
None for the regular people.
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Post by tsu120 on Oct 20, 2017 7:50:14 GMT -5
50,
You are 100% correct and don’t forget they are more concerned about getting free tickets and other benefits for their family and friends.
Seriously, I often laugh because some of the individuals that are on one board / committee are on another one and they are not doing anything worthwhile on either.
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Post by jaythomas on Oct 20, 2017 12:02:02 GMT -5
What I remember mostly and what is forever ingrained in my mind is how the Fans responded when they played ,TS TS TSUYou must be referring to 'TSU FUNK'
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Post by roarman53 on Oct 20, 2017 20:12:15 GMT -5
What I remember mostly and what is forever ingrained in my mind is how the Fans responded when they played ,TS TS TSUYou must be referring to 'TSU FUNK' Yes! That's It, jaythomas, Thank You So Much!! That song gives me the Chills and makes my heart pump TSU Blue Blood each and every time I hear it...How in the world the powers that be at TSU can take this away from it's own fans/supporters and alumni is really unfathomable. DC, I would not give up until TSU does the right thing and restore this traditional song to it's fans.
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Post by tsu120 on Oct 22, 2017 18:40:17 GMT -5
Band, remember the AOC have a new Band Director, with a new personality. Prof., Graves the previously director is from Memphis, played in the Band, marched in several Presidential Inaugurations and the list of accolades goes on and on. I am not sure if the new Band Director, truly understand the heritage and tradition of the AOC. Of if the original Marching 100 is TSU not FAMU.
In a similar, manner TSU have an AD, but does not truly understand the heritage and tradition of the university.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 22, 2017 19:04:24 GMT -5
Band, remember the AOC have a new Band Director, with a new personality. Prof., Graves the previously director is from Memphis, played in the Band, marched in several Presidential Inaugurations and the list of accolades goes on and on. I am not sure if the new Band Director, truly understand the heritage and tradition of the AOC. Of if the original Marching 100 is TSU not FAMU. In a similar, manner TSU have an AD, but does not truly understand the heritage and tradition of the university. Prof Graves is from Forrest, MS. Prof Garves hired Mcdonald and likes him. This ain't on Mcdonald.
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Post by tsu120 on Oct 23, 2017 7:19:44 GMT -5
Ok, Prof. Graves, has always told me that he was from Memphis..
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