tsumadness
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Post by tsumadness on Oct 16, 2017 15:59:37 GMT -5
After shots being fired outside of the stadium in the tailgate area, I suggest suspending tailgating for one year to see what happens. I wonder if that will impact attendance inside the stadium. I also heard there were shots fired during the parade; dumb!
I wasn't at the game, only the fourth homecoming I've missed since 10th grade, but the tailgate issue to me continues to bother me immensely.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 16, 2017 16:44:39 GMT -5
They could make them shutdown during thw game.
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Oct 16, 2017 18:41:56 GMT -5
As with so many other schools, tailgaters should be required to purchase game tickets as well. We should not be about hosting a parking lot party venue. I know it's a revenue stream but how much do people pay to park in the tailgating area and is there a cost per person? Because I've seen some tailgaters with 10-20 people sitting in their spots. I'm pretty certain not all of them possess a game ticket. From what I've seen most aren't even following the game via the radio or internet.
Can I say once again that I didn't state that the decline in male enrollment is "THE" issue. I'm just suggesting that it is part of the "overall" issue impacting attendance. It is a multifaceted issue. That will require a multifaceted approach to solve. My thing is TSU has to recognize that there isn't anyone on staff that has the experience to address this issue or it would have been addressed by now. So, at some point they need to approve funding with a research group that specializes in such an area. Maybe one place to start collecting information is with the tailgaters to see why they choose not to attend the game.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 16, 2017 19:42:42 GMT -5
This time, they did have actual parking attendants.
There is still way to much walking in the parking lots. That is what is blocking traffic. I even a saw some kids throwing throwing a football in the parking lot.
All those things are causing massive congestion in the parking lot. The main tailgate area is right by the stadium entrance by that bridge.
Maybe the opposite side of the stadium should be used for tailgating.
I would even move all the tailgaiters away from the Exxon Mobile gas station over there. Put a cop there and if anyone comes over, send them back.
There are just too many things going on at one time.
Tailgating should enhance the game day experience not take away from it.
I agree, every person on the lot should have a ticket on them and it needs to be scanned.
I even noticed that the parking attendants were hole punching the parking passes so people couldn't reuse them.
It is said that people are willing to steal from a HBCU.
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Post by jaythomas on Oct 17, 2017 10:52:43 GMT -5
Is there any way for the tailgate area to be secured and require game tickets be purchased to tailgate? Is that an option? I think the average fans are gonna purchase tickets and go to the games regardless. But those how just show up cause hanging out at the tailgate is fun [which it is] AND FREE...maybe they would purchase a game ticket and attend but most likely they won't.... just thinking outside of the box here.
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Oct 17, 2017 11:31:11 GMT -5
One thing that even Titan fans complain about is that the perimeter of the parking area closes to the stadium is not fenced. This allows way too many people to enter the area by foot. There should be entry points for vehicles and entry points for those walking from satellite parking lots. A ticket should be required to even enter into certain areas the closer you get to the stadium. The parking lots closes to the stadium should not be used for pedestrian pass through. If you do not have a tailgating pass or a parking pass for those lots, you should not be there. Also, tailgaters should be required to purchase passes for each person they invite to their tailgate area. This will stop tailgaters from inviting as many people as they want to just meet them in the area. It'll also stop walking tailgaters, those who just walk through the area waiting on some one to invite them over for bite. Ya'll know who I'm talking about.....
Oh, and tailgaters should be required to be in their spot no less than two hours before the game. Several years ago I was behind a small RV that was trying to get into the tailgating area on the east side of the stadium and it was right at 40 minutes before kick-off. They created an additional traffic mess because they were trying to navigate an RV through traffic and to their designated tailgate area after others had set-up. The parking lot attendants had to move temporary barricades to allow them to get to the area they were assigned to.
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tsuboms1968
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Post by tsuboms1968 on Oct 17, 2017 15:00:57 GMT -5
Went to the Tampa Game both TSU and the Bucs (Watched My Bears loss) their tailgate area is across from the Stadium and the same in KC. It was the middle of the 1st quarter before we could get into the game and we have season parking passes. Things have to changes or We will not have fans going to the game.
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Oct 17, 2017 18:54:15 GMT -5
I don't understand why they don't just duplicate what they do for the Titans games. When I lived in Nashville I attended First Baptist Church East Nashville on Main Street. A lot of fans park in that area as well to avoid paying for parking. But, one thing that I could say is that we never had any issues leaving the church service because of traffic for the game. Of course Titan fans aren't waiting till the 11th hour to get there either. TSU fans seemingly wait till an hour or less to head out for the game.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 17, 2017 19:17:46 GMT -5
I don't understand why they don't just duplicate what they do for the Titans games. When I lived in Nashville I attended First Baptist Church East Nashville on Main Street. A lot of fans park in that area as well to avoid paying for parking. But, one thing that I could say is that we never had any issues leaving the church service because of traffic for the game. Of course Titan fans aren't waiting till the 11th hour to get there either. TSU fans seemingly wait till an hour or less to head out for the game. School needs to manage it. If you talk to tailgaters, they don't think they are in the way. The school wants the revenue. I am not sure why the school stop managing the gameday experience. The peay fan was right, there was no energy in that stadium. No cheers to tell people to yell. No energy from the band(there are reasons for that). The school needs to think about hiring a team to think the gameday experience. Football game matters and that needs to be put back in the forefront. I think someone already said that though.
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 17, 2017 19:38:59 GMT -5
Also playing in Hale, playing more HBCUs, and hiring old coaches won't save us.
Oh. Sidenote, they put painted photos in Gentry near their locker rooms. It was paintings of the track team and Coach Ed Temple.
At least the odea was pushed forward somewhat.
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Post by roarman53 on Oct 17, 2017 19:47:03 GMT -5
I don't understand why they don't just duplicate what they do for the Titans games. When I lived in Nashville I attended First Baptist Church East Nashville on Main Street. A lot of fans park in that area as well to avoid paying for parking. But, one thing that I could say is that we never had any issues leaving the church service because of traffic for the game. Of course Titan fans aren't waiting till the 11th hour to get there either. TSU fans seemingly wait till an hour or less to head out for the game. I've been thinking the "Same Thing" for years now,DC, I'ts such a no-brainer that I've just attributed it to"Cost" as the reason that TSU doesn't duplicate what the Titans do...Just a Guess though...I could be wrong!
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Post by roarman53 on Oct 17, 2017 20:13:54 GMT -5
I don't understand why they don't just duplicate what they do for the Titans games. When I lived in Nashville I attended First Baptist Church East Nashville on Main Street. A lot of fans park in that area as well to avoid paying for parking. But, one thing that I could say is that we never had any issues leaving the church service because of traffic for the game. Of course Titan fans aren't waiting till the 11th hour to get there either. TSU fans seemingly wait till an hour or less to head out for the game. School needs to manage it. If you talk to tailgaters, they don't think they are in the way. The school wants the revenue. I am not sure why the school stop managing the gameday experience. The peay fan was right, there was no energy in that stadium. No cheers to tell people to yell. No energy from the band(there are reasons for that). The school needs to think about hiring a team to think the gameday experience. Football game matters and that needs to be put back in the forefront. I think someone already said that though. roknows, Speaking on the Band: Years ago, Many years ago, Lol, I attended My first TSU football game, Don't ask me who we played or even if we won, I can't remember that...But, What I do Remember Is the Incredible Performance the Aristocrats were putting on in the Stands, What I remember mostly and what is forever ingrained in my mind is how the Fans responded when they played ,TS TS TSU. Maybe thats not the name of the song, but I'll bet you know what tune I'm referring to...This is the tune that gets the crowd really really hype, but the Aristocrats only teases us with it nowadays. I know I'm not the only one of us ole-schoolers that has noticed this
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 18, 2017 10:52:58 GMT -5
School needs to manage it. If you talk to tailgaters, they don't think they are in the way. The school wants the revenue. I am not sure why the school stop managing the gameday experience. The peay fan was right, there was no energy in that stadium. No cheers to tell people to yell. No energy from the band(there are reasons for that). The school needs to think about hiring a team to think the gameday experience. Football game matters and that needs to be put back in the forefront. I think someone already said that though. roknows, Speaking on the Band: Years ago, Many years ago, Lol, I attended My first TSU football game, Don't ask me who we played or even if we won, I can't remember that...But, What I do Remember Is the Incredible Performance the Aristocrats were putting on in the Stands, What I remember mostly and what is forever ingrained in my mind is how the Fans responded when they played ,TS TS TSU. Maybe thats not the name of the song, but I'll bet you know what tune I'm referring to...This is the tune that gets the crowd really really hype, but the Aristocrats only teases us with it nowadays. I know I'm not the only one of us ole-schoolers that has noticed this There is a reason for that....
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Post by roknows50 on Oct 18, 2017 10:56:43 GMT -5
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Oct 18, 2017 10:58:16 GMT -5
Roar53, there were many chants and tunes the band played during the game that got the crowd hyped during my years. I don't know when the band decided to insert their name into the TS TS TS TSU song, but back in the early 80's students (yours truly in particular) introduced "TENNESSEE, A TENNESSEE STATE" into the song during a game that TSU had fought there way back into and for some reason as I and others continued to shout it out, TSU fans all over Vandy's stadium started chanting it as well as part of the song, and next thing you know it became of the tradition. Before the game was over, Prof Graves came into our section and asked who started that... and people pointed at me and he just said... I like that.
This was back int a time when TSU had a true game day experience. Games on campus started with tailgating up near the practice field, the old barn and the nursing building. It was a tradition for the band to march from the music building down to the stadium. People would already be gathered in the stadium and people walking to the stadium would stop to watch the band parade to the stadium. As the band entered the stadium the crowd would rise to their feet as they marched around the track to the visitors side. Once the teams left the field from pre-game warm ups the band would take the field and do a pre-game show typically playing marches and eventually leading to a few soul songs that were fan favorites. There was one song in particular that I wish I knew the name that had a chant in it that the whole stadium would join in on. Then you had the team running out onto the field through the band, the national anthem was played and it was game time. The band consistently had chants they played while on defense and offense. Whether it be a simple DEFENSE-DEFENSE chant to drums or LETS GO. I just don't recall so much dead space in our games. I know the OVC has stricter rules on bands playing, but if you look at all the OVC schools... ALL OF THEM... their bands consistently play whether on defense or offense. They just know when to start and when to pipe it down. Once the ball is snapped you can play. While in the huddle you can play. As the team approaches the line you can play. You stop or tone it down once the QB is in position to call the play. You don't need to play whole songs and that's what TSU and other HBCU's bands try to do. FAMU and Southern seem to be the only HBCU bands that still have chants. BCU has a few as well. But the crats seem to be all about playing whole songs than creating an experience tied to the game. I wish our band directors would look at major FBS football games so that they can learn from the game time experience they create. I've never watched an SEC game that is dead silent. I've never even watched an OVC game other than those at TSU that silent. The OVC is not that restrictive. We've taken a rule and over implement the compliance. That is if we are concerned about that. If you think other OVC bands are sitting quietly during games, I want you to view some of the on-demand games on the OVC site. Take a look in particular at our games at UTM and EKU. You will see and hear their bands throughout the entire game. Hell I even found it funny when one of EKU's fans complained on their site that their band may have hurt them on a possession because they were playing during the play.
Yes, I'm old school. I think we need traditions. If you let them slip away, so does your heritage. Traditions can be modified and new traditions can be created, but they shouldn't be stowed away unless they are culturally wrong. Traditions help to connect one generation to another. Small example than I'm done. A few years ago my best friend turned 50. He wanted to celebrate his b'day in France. Close to 30 people made the trip to Paris and to the wine country of France for his b'day. We actually celebrated his b'day in a castle in wine country for two nights. The night of his b'day we partied all night. In addition to me, there was one other person there who graduated from TSU. She graduated in the early 2000's, I graduated in 1984. So, decades between us. The DJ played The Show, which is one of the songs the Crats play in the stands... we both danced towards each other and we both simultaneously shouted Whoooo Oooooo!!! Whoooo Ooooo!!! and we got a huge laugh out of it and others looked at us like... what was that? ... and we said it's a TSU thang ya'll wouldn't know anything about that. There was a BCU grad there that knew and he got it as well as a grad from Bama State. Anyway, that was a moment in which a school tradition connected two generations separated by 20 years. There's another alum in the DC area that was at a party I attended and he too did the same thing. And, I loved that when he was asked by someone else how did we know one another he said because we are both from "the land of golden sunshine, by the Cumberlands fertile shores...." So even knowing the alma mater is important to our tradition.
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