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Post by tsu120 on Feb 18, 2024 17:13:20 GMT -5
Fact: no one knows about the future attendance of the SHC. If UAPB continue to play - 2023 being their first year. They have a decent following. Besides. attendance at the game has been up and down for years. It's not like all in attendance was from JSU. I have attended several games and has a seat on the JSU side. Blue, face it - JSU got punked. Despite, them leading in attendance and whatever. Question: At the JSU - SU game. Was the attendance the total of both programs or were the separated out by school Now you're sounding like a spurned lover. Seeking hard for some sort of satisfaction for being left at the alter.🤣 Please tell me you're joking with that question. No I am not joking. It's like you have an imaginary love affair with JSU. A majority of your conversations is about JSU I am asking a serious question. You're always bragging abut JSU attendance and the SHC. 2022 -total attendance 51,351. were the total attendance from JSU 2023 - total game attendance TSU - UAPB 32,351. How could TSU or UAPB claim the entire attendance was their fans.
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Post by tsucrat on Feb 18, 2024 23:15:14 GMT -5
Did they sue JSU and the swac together, or is it two separate suits?
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Post by jaythomas on Feb 19, 2024 8:55:32 GMT -5
Deion Sanders got his wish, Jackson State got the billJackson State got out of the Southern Heritage Classic under Deion Sanders, but it cost the program heavily.
“Seven busses for the band. We have four buses with all our people,” Deion Sanders said back in 2022. “And who else goes? Administration. Hotel accommodations. Food, all that. … By the time we get back, we’re broke.”
hbcugameday.com/2024/02/19/deion-sanders-got-his-wish-jackson-state-got-the-bill/
I guess my question, was JSU REALLY 'broke' once they got back from Memphis? Cause they kept renewing this SHC contract....but, this ship has sailed.
UAPB, TSU, CARRY ON WITH IT!
BTW, I would also love to see Alabama A&M in the SHC....just saying
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Post by tsucrat on Feb 19, 2024 11:04:34 GMT -5
It wouldn't surprise me, if they had to come out of pocket occasionally. But still probably wasn't broke. And trying to flex and jump ship certainly was worth this $800K. And this ain't all on Deion. There's a demigod trying to control how and when the whole conference makes money. He created the plan that set all of this in motion.
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Post by 2014tiger on Feb 19, 2024 12:20:25 GMT -5
What's really crazy is if JSU would've stuck around the last 2 years they could've worked with TSU and had *all* the leverage when renegotiating, because if the SHC lost TSU & JSU at the same time it'd have been curtains
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Post by tsundenver on Feb 19, 2024 12:45:57 GMT -5
What's really crazy is if JSU would've stuck around the last 2 years they could've worked with TSU and had *all* the leverage when renegotiating, because if the SHC lost TSU & JSU at the same time it'd have been curtains This makes too much sense.
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Feb 19, 2024 12:47:25 GMT -5
I don't think Jones is saying F you JSU. There was a contract dispute and it was settled as a contract dispute. Plain and simple. Don't read more into it than what is there. Yes, it is possible that there is some relationship issues between JSU and Jones as a result of this dispute. But, neither should be burning the bridge between.
The SHC is at its best with both TSU and JSU. Losing either would have a negative impact on attendance and potential revenue. The same happened in the Atlanta Classic when FAMU pulled out. There simply wasn't another school that 100BM could schedule to match the FAMU fanbase for that game. TSU fans continued to attend the game, just as they did with the SHC. Yes, there was a decline and one should expect that given the change in opponents in both instances were with schools TSU does not have a rivalry with. While I would much prefer to see TSU and JSU enter into a home and home series long term, if there is any interest in renewing the SHC rivalry, then maybe both schools should discuss a payout they'd like to negotiate with Jones. Similar to what FMAU and TSU before FAMU's return and TSU renewing its contract with the AC.
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Post by tsu120 on Feb 19, 2024 15:18:21 GMT -5
Several years ago TSU and JSU almost left the SHC. Jones, negotiated a new contract. The problem, has been JSU always thought they were in the drivers seat and could dictate the terms of the contracts.
IMO, once the fans of UAPB embrace the SHC it will be ok. The problem in the past UAPB, was the "step child" of the SWAC.
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Post by jaythomas on Feb 20, 2024 15:01:14 GMT -5
What's really crazy is if JSU would've stuck around the last 2 years they could've worked with TSU and had *all* the leverage when renegotiating, because if the SHC lost TSU & JSU at the same time it'd have been curtains You mean....
...likeWORKING TOGETHER?
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Post by bluedog on Feb 21, 2024 12:02:07 GMT -5
What's really crazy is if JSU would've stuck around the last 2 years they could've worked with TSU and had *all* the leverage when renegotiating, because if the SHC lost TSU & JSU at the same time it'd have been curtains This makes too much sense. It makes sense for beggars that need it. Not schools pulling in six figures consistently for their home games
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Post by bluedog on Feb 21, 2024 12:15:42 GMT -5
Now you're sounding like a spurned lover. Seeking hard for some sort of satisfaction for being left at the alter.🤣 Please tell me you're joking with that question. No I am not joking. It's like you have an imaginary love affair with JSU. A majority of your conversations is about JSU I am asking a serious question. You're always bragging abut JSU attendance and the SHC. 2022 -total attendance 51,351. were the total attendance from JSU 2023 - total game attendance TSU - UAPB 32,351. How could TSU or UAPB claim the entire attendance was their fans. You're so blind with envy you have JSU on the brain. I never bragged about anything, certainly not JSU attendance at the SHC. 🤣🤣🤣 But go on, I haven't been entertained in quite some time. Btw that question doesn't make sense. So unless there's something you need to further elaborate on. All I can do with that is smh.
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Post by tsundenver on Feb 21, 2024 12:46:26 GMT -5
This makes too much sense. It makes sense for beggars that need it. Not schools pulling in six figures consistently for their home games Oh, that is why schools pulling in six figures for home games have such huge athletic budgets and facilities that are so superior to everyone else's.
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Post by bluedog on Feb 21, 2024 16:21:00 GMT -5
It makes sense for beggars that need it. Not schools pulling in six figures consistently for their home games Oh, that is why schools pulling in six figures for home games have such huge athletic budgets and facilities that are so superior to everyone else's.
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Post by jafusthinker on Mar 12, 2024 23:34:35 GMT -5
Oh, that is why schools pulling in six figures for home games have such huge athletic budgets and facilities that are so superior to everyone else's. There is also the fact that Jackson State after leaving the Classic has the option of hosting another home game every year if they desire and earning at least the same amount, realistically more than the payout of the Classic and that is after the Prime Effect. During the Prime Effect era JSU was averaging more than a $1M dollars from the gate alone due to significant attendance growth.
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Post by tsundenver on Mar 13, 2024 7:49:23 GMT -5
USA Today released its latest revenue and expense numbers for the 233 public institutions at the Division I level, including 76 of them who play at the Football Championship Subdivision. No HBCUs were in the top 150 of Division I or in the top 25 of the FCS. Southern University was the top-ranked HBCU with total revenue of just over $18.1 million, good for 163rd in Division I and 35th best in the FCS. However, its expenses went up more than $3 million as well. It spent $4.5 million on coaching salaries and $3.5 million in scholarships, both representing jumps of better than half a million in each category. Four other HBCUs — North Carolina A&T, Norfolk State, Delaware State and Tennessee State — ranked in the top 50. New CAA-member NC A&T was no. 44 with revenue of $16.3 million. Delaware State was just below it with revenue of $16.2 million, followed by fellow MEAC member Norfolk State at $15.9 million. Tennessee State, the lone HBCU in the OVC, was ranked 49th with $15.83 million. hbcugameday.com/2023/06/14/hbcu-athletics-revenue-2023-what-do-the-numbers-tell-us/(...This is an hard saying; who can hear it?)
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