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Post by bluedog on Aug 3, 2022 12:24:53 GMT -5
Y'all need to see about joining the meac
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Post by roknows50 on Aug 3, 2022 12:40:26 GMT -5
When you don't spend on sports, which we haven't in the last 8 years, you lose. That has nothing to do with the OVC. The teams that actually left the OVC grew and won championships. Holding leadership accountable for their mistakes is a convo we ain't ready to have yet. We would rather try to be positive and blame others. Dude, every team that left the OVC is on record about not being happy with OVC leadership. Didn't EKU try to broker a deal to merge ASUN/OVC? So explain to me again how this has nothing to do with the OVC. Folks be on this site saying just anything. Eku was lying. They don't want to pay a million dollars. You can't be that gullible. Anyone heard of one conference member trying to unify two leagues? If this was really about Beth, why didn't they just vote her out? They really wanted to play against the same teams under a different conference? That doesn't make any sense. |
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Post by tiger1 on Aug 3, 2022 13:08:45 GMT -5
Dude, every team that left the OVC is on record about not being happy with OVC leadership. Didn't EKU try to broker a deal to merge ASUN/OVC? So explain to me again how this has nothing to do with the OVC. Folks be on this site saying just anything. They don't want to pay a million dollars. You can't be that gullible. Anyone heard of one conference member trying to unify two leagues? If this was really about Beth, why didn't they just vote her out? They really wanted to play against the same teams under a different conference? That doesn't make any sense.  Can you provide proof sir? |
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Post by jafusthinker on Aug 3, 2022 13:13:40 GMT -5
Unfortunate!
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Post by roknows50 on Aug 3, 2022 13:18:43 GMT -5
Eku was lying. They don't want to pay a million dollars. You can't be that gullible. Anyone heard of one conference member trying to unify two leagues? If this was really about Beth, why didn't they just vote her out? They really wanted to play against the same teams under a different conference? That doesn't make any sense. Can you provide proof sir? Please reread the article. You may have misunderstood the whole situation . It was a counterclaim to the OVC suing them. EKU is claiming that the were trying to unify a conference. OVC said that is BS. It will be resolved in a court of law EKU more than likely paying a reduced fee to leave. The OVC issued its response to the countersuit on May 18 — and asked the court to dismiss EKU's action. The memorandum attempted to rebuke EKU's claims and sheds even more light on the EKU's attempt to broker a merger between its old league and its new one. www.richmondregister.com/sports/eku-launches-countersuit-against-ovc-school-officials-tried-to-work-out-merger-between-ovc-asun/article_ade8ebe0-f1b7-11ec-ae29-33600f256046.html |
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Post by tiger1 on Aug 3, 2022 13:24:59 GMT -5
This is merely he/she said. I am not caping for a conference that can't get its shyt straight and has memberS defecting due to incompetent leadership. Do better! |
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Post by roknows50 on Aug 3, 2022 13:26:32 GMT -5
When you don't spend on sports, which we haven't in the last 8 years, you lose. That has nothing to do with the OVC. The teams that actually left the OVC grew and won championships. Holding leadership accountable for their mistakes is a convo we ain't ready to have yet. We would rather try to be positive and blame others. Dude, every team that left the OVC is on record about not being happy with OVC leadership. Didn't EKU try to broker a deal to merge ASUN/OVC? So explain to me again how this has nothing to do with the OVC. Folks be on this site saying just anything. The only ones that have been on record saying that they didn't like the OVC are currently in the ASUN building a rivalry with Utah Tech. Missouri Valley is clearly a better conference than the OVC and have been for years. They moved up. Outside Jack St, you can't say they made a better decision. Even if the ASUN absorbs the rest of the Big South and the OVC, all they(we) did was move the chairs around. ASUN commish really thought he was going to yank some CAA teams, his grand vision of dominance fell apart. |
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Post by tiger1 on Aug 3, 2022 13:40:28 GMT -5
Dude, every team that left the OVC is on record about not being happy with OVC leadership. Didn't EKU try to broker a deal to merge ASUN/OVC? So explain to me again how this has nothing to do with the OVC. Folks be on this site saying just anything. The only ones that have been on record saying that they didn't like the OVC are currently in the ASUN building a rivalry with Utah Tech. Missouri Valley is clearly a better conference than the OVC and have been for years. They moved up. Outside Jack St, you can't say they made a better decision. Even if the ASUN absorbs the rest of the Big South and the OVC, all they(we) did was move the chairs around.ASUN commish really thought he was going to yank some CAA teams, his grand vision of dominance fell apart. This is a self drag. You are proving my point about the OVC sir. |
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Post by bluetigga on Aug 3, 2022 15:12:59 GMT -5
Whether EKU was telling the truth or not....the point is, the schools with strong leadership saw the writing on the wall. The others were smart enough to react to the first schools movement. I don't think anyone on here saw the conference growing or improving over the last decade. More importantly, not sure a real vision for the conference was shared (at least not outside of the administration).
We can split hairs on why each school left, but the point is they made a move to better themselves conference alignment wise. And please believe the remaining schools would move if they could. EIU and SEMO would love to join the MVC/MVFC, but that conference does not want them currently. If they did and those two moved, the OVC would already be dead.
While I won't go hard on Dr. Allen because he inherited this mess, at this point he has to bring Dr. Glover to the table and make a business decision for TSU. Another poster (I believe Madness) said something in another thread that I am starting to believe more and more. He got the hunch we were planning to move to FBS sooner than later, due to the number of roster spots the football team is carrying this season (according to the roster in July). I am inclined to assume the same at this point. That's the only reason I can see us staying put for this long. But who knows!
At this point, a move this season is not happening, so I'm going to enjoy it...but I definitely expect an announcement before the athletics/scholastic calendar year ends (June 2023).
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Post by bluedog on Aug 3, 2022 16:37:59 GMT -5
The OVC was pronounced officially dead at the media day. When both the Lil South and the OVC commissioners announce the two were merging and rebranding with a new name.
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Post by roknows50 on Aug 3, 2022 17:14:55 GMT -5
The only ones that have been on record saying that they didn't like the OVC are currently in the ASUN building a rivalry with Utah Tech. Missouri Valley is clearly a better conference than the OVC and have been for years. They moved up. Outside Jack St, you can't say they made a better decision. Even if the ASUN absorbs the rest of the Big South and the OVC, all they(we) did was move the chairs around.ASUN commish really thought he was going to yank some CAA teams, his grand vision of dominance fell apart. This is a self drag. You are proving my point about the OVC sir. EKU lying is a self drag? Try again? |
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Post by roknows50 on Aug 3, 2022 17:22:22 GMT -5
Whether EKU was telling the truth or not....the point is, the schools with strong leadership saw the writing on the wall. The others were smart enough to react to the first schools movement. I don't think anyone on here saw the conference growing or improving over the last decade. More importantly, not sure a real vision for the conference was shared (at least not outside of the administration). We can split hairs on why each school left, but the point is they made a move to better themselves conference alignment wise. And please believe the remaining schools would move if they could. EIU and SEMO would love to join the MVC/MVFC, but that conference does not want them currently. If they did and those two moved, the OVC would already be dead. While I won't go hard on Dr. Allen because he inherited this mess, at this point he has to bring Dr. Glover to the table and make a business decision for TSU. Another poster (I believe Madness) said something in another thread that I am starting to believe more and more. He got the hunch we were planning to move to FBS sooner than later, due to the number of roster spots the football team is carrying this season (according to the roster in July). I am inclined to assume the same at this point. That's the only reason I can see us staying put for this long. But who knows! At this point, a move this season is not happening, so I'm going to enjoy it...but I definitely expect an announcement before the athletics/scholastic calendar year ends (June 2023). Fair point, Dr. Allen wasn't around those conversation. The schools should have just let Jacksonville State walk. Not sure why they were the voice of reason in this scenario. The real lesson here is to not let one team decide the future of a conference. |
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Post by jafusthinker on Aug 3, 2022 17:38:18 GMT -5
Tennessee State will have to prepare for trips Westward to St. Louis for Lindenwood (which is in the OVC). And they will possibly have to travel to Robert Morris in Pennsylvania and or Bryant in Rhode Island along with the Carolina schools in the Big South.
That is a tough situation for them.
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Post by bluedog on Aug 3, 2022 18:04:45 GMT -5
Tennessee State will have to prepare for trips Westward to St. Louis for Lindenwood (which is in the OVC). And they will possibly have to travel to Robert Morris in Pennsylvania and or Bryant in Rhode Island along with the Carolina schools in the Big South. That is a tough situation for them. Bryant University 17hrs Charleston Southern University 8hrs Gardener Web University 6hrs Robert Morris University 9hrs Total Travel Time =avg 10hrs |
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Post by tsucrat on Aug 3, 2022 18:09:10 GMT -5
The Lindenwood trip wouldn't be to bad, but I might be partial with that opinion, but the others mentioned would be rough.
But like someone else mentioned I'm going to enjoy this season with expectations of improved game on the field and dominating what's in front of us.
After this season, I doubt we'll be a part of what's left. But we'll see.
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