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Post by roarman53 on Sept 3, 2021 16:10:18 GMT -5
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Post by roarman53 on Sept 3, 2021 16:15:20 GMT -5
Say what you will about the Man, but he is sending shock wave after shock wave thru HBCU Football. No one that I can recall has ever stated this publicly.
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Post by tsundenver on Sept 3, 2021 19:19:50 GMT -5
Say what you will about the Man, but he is sending shock wave after shock wave thru HBCU Football. No one that I can recall has ever stated this publicly.But many have thought it privately... |
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Post by tsumadness on Sept 3, 2021 20:52:50 GMT -5
I don’t know about the fold up part, but I wish a strong group of teams would create a conference that would knock on the door of ESPN and say, “what’s up…integrate or be called out.”
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 3, 2021 23:11:07 GMT -5
He went there. And pretty sure a lot of people have thought something similar over the last few years. I don't know about everyone, but the top 12 to 16 financially and athletically sound HBCUs in a conference does sound cool. I'd still rather we find a way to do our own broadcasting rather than waiting on Mickey Mouse to cut a check.
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Post by roarman53 on Sept 4, 2021 16:32:52 GMT -5
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Post by roarman53 on Sept 4, 2021 16:48:26 GMT -5
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Post by roarman53 on Sept 4, 2021 17:19:28 GMT -5
I don’t know about the fold up part, but I wish a strong group of teams would create a conference that would knock on the door of ESPN and say, “what’s up…integrate or be called out.” Exactly! I just saw a post where ESPN was broadcasting the SWAC Championship game on ESPNU.. Pitiful!! |
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Sept 4, 2021 19:23:11 GMT -5
So, I'll be the one to say, he notably did not mention that an HBCU Mega Conference should also include NCA&T and Tennessee State. To me if you are truly wanting to build an HBCU Mega Conference you need to include both of those schools. At least they should be part of the discussion.
While I'm not opposed to the idea, how schools in the MEAC as far away as DC, MD and DE would be able to afford the additional costs to be in such a conference without specifically making all of the former MEAC schools the east division of the conference would be a challenge. And, what about the schools that do not field football teams like Coppin and UMES? How would they factor into an HBCU Mega Conference?
But hey, sometimes you have to put dreams, propositions, ideas, etc., into the universe to see how people respond to them. If the SWAC is looking to shift to a Mega Conference, then lay the ground work.
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Post by tsusupporter on Sept 4, 2021 23:33:42 GMT -5
So, I'll be the one to say, he notably did not mention that an HBCU Mega Conference should also include NCA&T and Tennessee State. To me if you are truly wanting to build an HBCU Mega Conference you need to include both of those schools. At least they should be part of the discussion. While I'm not opposed to the idea, how schools in the MEAC as far away as DC, MD and DE would be able to afford the additional costs to be in such a conference without specifically making all of the former MEAC schools the east division of the conference would be a challenge. And, what about the schools that do not field football teams like Coppin and UMES? How would they factor into an HBCU Mega Conference? But hey, sometimes you have to put dreams, propositions, ideas, etc., into the universe to see how people respond to them. If the SWAC is looking to shift to a Mega Conference, then lay the ground work. What the SEC will probably do, is go to a "pod" system. That is, they'll separate the teams up into divisions ( like in the NFL ). A SWAC + MEAC + TSU + NCAT + HAMPTON conference will have 23 teams in it. So your "pods will be in groups of 5 - 6 teams. If a strong D-II program wanted to move up, it would be a clean 24 team - 4 pod/divisions - with 6 teams each. Bowie St won the CIAA in 2019. They're also the 12th largest HBCU by enrollment, so let's call them up to make it a clean 24 team conference. Also, you tell Coppin and UMES that if they want to continue to be part of this conference, they MUST field a football team, as well as being compliant in other athletics.
West PodPrairie View Tx Southern Southern Grambling UAPB Mississippi Valley Central PodTennessee St Jackson St Alcorn St Alabama St Alabama A&M FAMU East PodBethune-Cookman NCAT NCCU Norfolk St Hampton South Carolina St North PodBowie St Coppin St Delaware St Morgan St Howard UMES The way this would work, is that a team would play each of the 5 other teams in their division, plus 1 team for the other 3 pods, for a total of 8 conference games. Because some traditional rivalries would be in jeopardy of not being played every year, a team would also be required to designate a "cross pod rival" to play every year. Cross pod rival games? Howard - Hampton FAMU - BCU JSU - Southern Grambling - TSU TxSo - ASU UAPB - UMES Alcorn - MVSU AAMU - Prairie View NCAT - Morgan St NCCU - Delaware St Norfolk St - Bowie St Coppin St - SCSU So for TSU, their conference schedule could look like this: Jackson St FAMU Alabama A&M Alabama St Alcorn Hampton ( East )
UAPB ( West )
UMES ( North )
Grambling ( pod rival )
Pros: * All major HBCUs are in the same conference * Maximum 2 long road trips a pod system. Most seasons it'll be just one * Expanded conference reaches from Texas to Delaware * Opportunity to play teams you normally don't play Cons * Because of the 9 game conference schedule, with 6 games set in stone, it'll take each team 6 years to play each other once, and 12 years to play every team at home once * Some pod divisions would be much stronger than others * A weaker pod champion would get to play in the playoffs, over a stronger team that finished 2nd in another pod At the end of the season, each of the pod winners would advance to a 4-team in-conference playoff to determine the champ. Top 2 teams get home games vs the other 2 pod winners. Winner of those 2 games go to the Celebration Bowl. |
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Post by bluetigga on Sept 5, 2021 0:29:45 GMT -5
So, I'll be the one to say, he notably did not mention that an HBCU Mega Conference should also include NCA&T and Tennessee State. To me if you are truly wanting to build an HBCU Mega Conference you need to include both of those schools. At least they should be part of the discussion. While I'm not opposed to the idea, how schools in the MEAC as far away as DC, MD and DE would be able to afford the additional costs to be in such a conference without specifically making all of the former MEAC schools the east division of the conference would be a challenge. And, what about the schools that do not field football teams like Coppin and UMES? How would they factor into an HBCU Mega Conference? But hey, sometimes you have to put dreams, propositions, ideas, etc., into the universe to see how people respond to them. If the SWAC is looking to shift to a Mega Conference, then lay the ground work. Honestly, let most tell it, neither has interest in joining the SWAC. So not sure why he would include A&T or TSU. Even when our AD talked, he mentioned the conferences that he had talks with. The SWAC was not one of them. |
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 5, 2021 7:13:49 GMT -5
When I heard him mentioned it, the ASUN and somebody else reached out to him. I don't think the swac is reaching out to anyone right now.
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Post by tsucrat on Sept 5, 2021 7:53:46 GMT -5
So why would you separate Bethune and FAMU?
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Sept 5, 2021 10:15:00 GMT -5
Also, you tell Coppin and UMES that if they want to continue to be part of this conference, they MUST field a football team, as well as being compliant in other athletics. Easier said than done. If establishing a football team was simple, I'm sure both Coppin and UMES would have done so by now. As would so many other schools across the country. Football teams are not cheap. Maintaining them at the D1 level is also why you don't see schools like Bowie St., Kentucky St., Tuskegee, Miles, etc. moving up to D1. It's not because they don't want to. It's because financially they are not in a position to. A new HBCU Mega Conference won't change that unless the conference provides subsidies. |
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Post by jaythomas on Sept 5, 2021 16:49:39 GMT -5
I don’t know about the fold up part, but I wish a strong group of teams would create a conference that would knock on the door of ESPN and say, “what’s up…integrate or be called out.” 
And if that happens, I really hope that TSU is part of the mix. A&T too.
As for UMES, who remember when they were Maryland STATE University [not to be confused with Morgan State] and had a really TOP football program? |
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