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Post by roknows50 on Aug 25, 2022 9:15:04 GMT -5
U Indy has football.
The OVC won't close. I think it will just add more schools that will are actually in the Ohio Valley. The OVC will add Grand Valley State at some point. I also think that Robert Morris will hang around.
I know Dr. Allen doesn't plan to be in the OVC for the long haul anyway, but like APSU was saying(New Utah Tech Rival); hanging around a northern conference isn't good for a southern school.
But hey, Southern FCS football is really bad anyway, but that is a whole different conversation.
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Post by roknows50 on Aug 25, 2022 9:24:30 GMT -5
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Post by tsucrat on Aug 25, 2022 9:54:04 GMT -5
If the OVC could snag U of Indy, or convince Butler to switch in football, before TSU finally makes a move. I'd selfishly rejoice. That's the backyard for me.
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Post by tsundenver on Aug 25, 2022 9:58:06 GMT -5
May not be a bad strategy to add larger metro areas like Indianapolis... 4,000 not too bad for private school. This one may be a good one to add -----> University of Missouri–St. Louis, St. Louis, Missouri 1963 Public 10,977 Over 10,000 students But TSU's days in the OVC are likely numbered... We shall see.
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Post by roknows50 on Aug 25, 2022 12:35:40 GMT -5
Wow. Sept 30th is supposed to be the voting date.
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Post by roknows50 on Aug 25, 2022 13:04:33 GMT -5
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Post by jafusthinker on Aug 25, 2022 23:15:54 GMT -5
Interesting!
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Post by tsundenver on Aug 30, 2022 11:04:32 GMT -5
Maybe we should take a look from 30 thousand feet and not be so fixated with Football. What if we thought more about the impact of basketball and other sports and how the OVC impacts TSU.
So, is the OVC the best fit for TSU when we consider basketball and other sports? IF so, I would like the see Northern Kentucky (suburb of Cincinnati) in the OVC. That private school in Louisville may be a good fit as well. (TV viewership)
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Post by ratai3000 on Oct 5, 2022 9:05:15 GMT -5
How come Western Illinois is not part of the discussion or conversation when it comes to being a potential expansion candidate or target to the OVC? They would rather be competing in teams within areas of the Great Lakes portion of the Midwest and parts of the Mid-South than compete far away to the Dakotas or any other Upper Midwest state, or especially to Colorado.
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Post by tsucrat on Oct 5, 2022 10:35:52 GMT -5
I can't find it now, but I thought I saw an announcement that ui decided not to pursue moving up for now.
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Post by TSUTigerFanInDC on Oct 5, 2022 11:00:07 GMT -5
Maybe we should take a look from 30 thousand feet and not be so fixated with Football. What if we thought more about the impact of basketball and other sports and how the OVC impacts TSU. So, is the OVC the best fit for TSU when we consider basketball and other sports? IF so, I would like the see Northern Kentucky (suburb of Cincinnati) in the OVC. That private school in Louisville may be a good fit as well. (TV viewership) It was viewing TSU athletics from 30K feet that caused TSU to join a conference. Football was not the key reason. During that time football was doing fine playing as an independent. The concern was with all the other sports, especially basketball. The chances of ever participating in post season play in basketball was zero without being in a conference. Scheduling for all other sports other than football was always a challenge because we weren't in a conference. That is pretty much what lead to TSU to join a conference.
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Post by tsundenver on Oct 5, 2022 11:01:10 GMT -5
I can't find it now, but I thought I saw an announcement that ui decided not to pursue moving up for now. Yeah, I saw that and forgot to post it here. So, what are the best options for TSU and the OVC for the next few years. No need for us to change conferences if the long-term plans are FBS. How many teams will be left in the Big South to add to the six OVC football playing schools. Will the ASUN survive; and if not, which ASUN teams can or will consider the OVC.
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Post by tsundenver on Oct 5, 2022 11:05:18 GMT -5
How come Western Illinois is not part of the discussion or conversation when it comes to being a potential expansion candidate or target to the OVC? They would rather be competing in teams within areas of the Great Lakes portion of the Midwest and parts of the Mid-South than compete far away to the Dakotas or any other Upper Midwest state, or especially to Colorado. If I remember correctly, Western Illinois was considered but did not appear to bring a lot to the table. May have been several factors but they may not be a good fit. Neither was Chicago State. I hate to say it but academics may have played a part.
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Post by funkiejunkie on Oct 5, 2022 12:53:29 GMT -5
I can't find it now, but I thought I saw an announcement that ui decided not to pursue moving up for now. Yeah, I saw that and forgot to post it here. So, what are the best options for TSU and the OVC for the next few years. No need for us to change conferences if the long-term plans are FBS. How many teams will be left in the Big South to add to the six OVC football playing schools. Will the ASUN survive; and if not, which ASUN teams can or will consider the OVC. See, I guess this is where I disagree. If we're realistic, FBS is minimum 5 years away for us, and I'd argue that it's closer to 10 years than 5. That's a long time to stay in a conference that isn't to our benefit. Getting into the right conference could help to build our fanbase and allow us to take care of other in-house cleaning while we prepare for FBS.
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Post by tsundenver on Oct 5, 2022 13:07:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw that and forgot to post it here. So, what are the best options for TSU and the OVC for the next few years. No need for us to change conferences if the long-term plans are FBS. How many teams will be left in the Big South to add to the six OVC football playing schools. Will the ASUN survive; and if not, which ASUN teams can or will consider the OVC. See, I guess this is where I disagree. If we're realistic, FBS is minimum 5 years away for us, and I'd argue that it's closer to 10 years than 5. That's a long time to stay in a conference that isn't to our benefit. Getting into the right conference could help to build our fanbase and allow us to take care of other in-house cleaning while we prepare for FBS. I understand your point, and it is valid. But I can name 3 FBS teams that transitioned from the OVC. Which conference do you recommend that has a track record of successfully aiding in the transitioning schools from FCS (1AA) to FBS. Fan base is not the only factor, and if the move up is successful you better not depend on the fans base of the visiting universities let alone the fans of the conference you are moving away from.
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