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Post by tsusupporter on Nov 14, 2017 12:34:08 GMT -5
This is not a lick of Instruction Control or has anything to do with Reed. I am going to say this and leave it alone. I attend between 75 to 95% of the practices. I am not surprised, remember at the beginning of fall practice, I mention there were a player(s) and assistant coach had a heated exchange. I am not saying that Latrelle was the player or he was correct in his actions, but Greenstone is the “Strength and Conditioning Coach” Not the Head Coach or an Assistant Coach, that call plays. At times his behavior at practice is questionable. There are times that he acts like a bully toward the players. Going back to beginning of Fall Practice, when the other coaches witnessed the verbal insults from a couple of coaches per se' and a couple of players. The other coaches that witnessed the verbal attack, should have stopped practice and correct the issues. Instead, Reed included watched and heard he insults and did "NOTHING". It was the other players that separated the "coach" and player (s). However, if there was an issue between the two, Reed should have known and whatever the problem was, should have never continued to this point. This may have been an on-going difference between the two, and there is no telling what he “may have said” to Latrelle. So know the facts, before the action and this has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the lack of Instructional Control. This would explain why #45 stood there and did nothing, while the other guys was throwing haymakers at the coach. Either that, or he has poor peripheral vision and didn't see the incident. I wished the video would've rolled a little longer, to see the reaction of everyone after the coach fell to the ground.
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Post by bluetigga on Nov 14, 2017 12:59:12 GMT -5
This is unfortunate! I feel bad because this kid is a senior and probably close to graduating, but you can't do this. And if what 120 said is correct, then it may be time for Coach Reed to exit stage left. I've rooted for him for a while, but coaches can't harass players. You have to find a way to instill discipline without provoking the players. If you have players that you can't instill discipline in, then you have to let them move on. I'll hold my opinion since I don't know the full story, but this is getting a little ridiculous.
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Post by tsumadness on Nov 14, 2017 13:04:13 GMT -5
Is this not a forum of opinions? Each day, it seems this "forum" is becoming more and more like the Memphis Tigers board, where all they do is attack each other. If this is no longer a forum of opinions, let me know.
If an event happens regularly over a period of time, it becomes part of the culture/system. In this case, I've heard counts and counts of issues on this team. From current and former players who happen to be former students. I love Coach Reed and the last thing I want is for him to lose his position. I happen to know him personally, so attacking him is the last thing I'm trying to do. But there is a problem and it needs to be addressed.
And 50, way back on this forum, discussions and disagreements with you have always been pleasant. I happened to meet you years ago, and I thought the same personally. But you now seem to use this board as an opportunity to degrade folks comments. From the person I met years ago, you're much better than that.
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Post by tsu120 on Nov 14, 2017 13:48:01 GMT -5
Yes, he is paying for his action and so should the coach. How often is a coach punished for provoking a player?
It is not always the players fault and too often we as society say “the student should remain under control” what about the coaches being an example on how to remain under control.
I am sure there are others that know the entire story. They should go to Reed, and tell the entire story. The sad, part is more than likely the administration will believe the coach.
This is what the entire coaching staff is now facing. If the coach was wrong and the players know this and Reed failed to discipline the coach and apologize to the team and Latrelle.
It is a possibility; they will play, but not give it 100% against JAX State or next season.
After the game last night, the team was practicing at Hale. There was not a lot of “chatter” they just standing around, like they did not have a care in the world – that’s, not good.
Considering, all what has led up to this and no one have to believe me, Reed has lost control of this team and they do not trust him or the coaching staff.
He really, should be thankful this is the end of the season.
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Post by tiger1 on Nov 14, 2017 14:24:56 GMT -5
Yes, he is paying for his action and so should the coach. How often is a coach punished for provoking a player? It is not always the players fault and too often we as society say “the student should remain under control” what about the coaches being an example on how to remain under control. I am sure there are others that know the entire story. They should go to Reed, and tell the entire story. The sad, part is more than likely the administration will believe the coach. This is what the entire coaching staff is now facing. If the coach was wrong and the players know this and Reed failed to discipline the coach and apologize to the team and Latrelle. It is a possibility; they will play, but not give it 100% against JAX State or next season. After the game last night, the team was practicing at Hale. There was not a lot of “chatter” they just standing around, like they did not have a care in the world – that’s, not good. Considering, all what has led up to this and no one have to believe me, Reed has lost control of this team and they do not trust him or the coaching staff. He really, should be thankful this is the end of the season. This is the energy I was referring too... IMO, he has not only lost the team but the coaching staff as well. Correct me if I'm wrong tsu120, but wasn't there some internal beefing on the staff when M. Jones left as well. Seems like a lot of unnecessary drama and the team continues to suffer for it...
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Post by roknows50 on Nov 14, 2017 15:11:03 GMT -5
Tsumadness,
I hear but, I really get agigitated when when we go from opinions to spreading rumors.
At this point, rumors are being spread.
If I was Coach Reed, I would honestly go to close door practices.
They now have to control the narrative.
We have to protect ourselves from ourselves.
I know people that visited practice, they aren't coming back with the same feedback.
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Post by tiger1 on Nov 14, 2017 18:24:39 GMT -5
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Post by tsu120 on Nov 14, 2017 19:47:24 GMT -5
Sure there was some strife within the coaching staff and it stems from the Alumni wanting Mike Jones as the HC and Reed, being appointed the HC.
Rod and Mike, was coaching at the same time, prior to Rod becoming the HC.
It was not until, Parker became part of the staff that things became obvious.
Most that attended practice and the games felt the tension within the staff.
"What we know about Lee" He was a good student and was not a trouble maker.
Here is the other question, What provoked Latrelle, to hit the coach. There is a reason, however we may never know why and the other question should be "What do we know about the Coach" and perhaps the question should be was the coaching staff know of any strife between the two.
I am not sold on Lee, just all of a sudden hitting the coach.
Already, most are saying Lee is the "Bad Boy" well we witnessed the end part not the beginning.
Stay tuned..
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Post by tiger1 on Nov 15, 2017 17:46:59 GMT -5
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Post by tiger1 on Nov 18, 2017 19:36:19 GMT -5
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Post by bluetigga on Nov 18, 2017 20:33:59 GMT -5
Yep! He has a good amount of support too. There are others players, as well as students supporting him. The players are what make it interesting though.
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Post by tsu120 on Nov 18, 2017 21:08:22 GMT -5
I agree Lee, for four years, never in trouble, goo academics -m he earned his degree.
If not, the president may face some legal issues.
The players, know who, what and why!
Just returned from the basketball games and there were several former players said.
Reed, may be gone, if he does not fire Parker.
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Post by tsumadness on Nov 19, 2017 3:31:04 GMT -5
My belief is...they are going to give him his degree. He won't participate in graduation, but get his degree.
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Post by tsu120 on Nov 19, 2017 6:30:58 GMT -5
madness
I agree
I think TSU should have used better judgment by not making his suspension public. I don’t think they considered there would be a backlash from the students and perhaps alumni would send the president their opinion.
They should have just issued a public statement and say the incident is under investigation.
Sometimes it’s better to say as little as possible.
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Post by tiger1 on Nov 21, 2017 13:09:27 GMT -5
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